I am in the market for an upgrade from my old 8600GT. I don't want to go higher than $200. At first I was looking at the 8800s, but the ATI 4800s and nvidia 9800s came out. Heres the 2 I am looking at right nao.
Radeon 4850 - $170
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3921310%26CatId=3670
and
9800GTX -$150 after rebate
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3732815%26CatId=3670
I have been hearing conflicting reports on which is better. And I have concerns about the 9800 fitting in the case.
http://images.compusa.com/itemdetails/M975-5178/M975-5178-out2-la.jpg
there is a picture of the case. I bought an hp with that case, because at the time the refurbished prebuilt was cheaper than the quad core that came in it.Sub $200 Video Card
The 4850 outperforms the 9800GTX. The 9800 GTX+ performs better then the 4850, but you're going to be paying a lot more for it.I would go with the 4850(just make sure you use the manual fan fix). Sub $200 Video Card
I would go with the 4850 as well.
also for only 20 bucks more the new 4850 1gb ddr3 came out from saphire idk if it helps in performence tho
4850
Get the 4850 but MAKE SURE your powersupply can handle it. If your running the stock powersupply that came with the case then your going to be underpowering it by alot.
[QUOTE=''slyr114'']also for only 20 bucks more the new 4850 1gb ddr3 came out from saphire idk if it helps in performence tho[/QUOTE]The HD 4850 has a 256-bit memory bus, so, no, it doesn't help performance.
so the 1gb version is like a bunch of other cards just a marketing gimmick i hate it when they do that if it makes no difference
I read on the internet that all what a GTX+ is an over clocked GTX, is that true, and is that a process you can do yourself? Also, i have a 300w PSU, which technically isn't enough for an 8600GT, so I was planning on upgrading the PSU as well. I was thinking about just picking up a 500w or somewhere around there from circuit city or best buy. I think that the PSU isn't giving enough power to my components, as I have a Core 2 Quad, so I thank that could be affecting my performance right now.
Go for the AMD 4850 my friend!
[QUOTE=''Atomicfireball'']I am in the market for an upgrade from my old 8600GT. I don't want to go higher than $200. At first I was looking at the 8800s, but the ATI 4800s and nvidia 9800s came out. Heres the 2 I am looking at right nao. Radeon 4850 - $170 http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3921310%26CatId=3670 and 9800GTX -$150 after rebate http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3732815%26CatId=3670 I have been hearing conflicting reports on which is better. And I have concerns about the 9800 fitting in the case. http://images.compusa.com/itemdetails/M975-5178/M975-5178-out2-la.jpg there is a picture of the case. I bought an hp with that case, because at the time the refurbished prebuilt was cheaper than the quad core that came in it.[/QUOTE]Just bought the Asus 4850. Amazing card. Highly Recommend it! Runs Crysis all-high, 4x AA, no lag whatsoever.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253Cheaper than compusa, free shipping too! ;)
[QUOTE=''Atomicfireball'']I read on the internet that all what a GTX+ is an over clocked GTX, is that true, and is that a process you can do yourself? Also, i have a 300w PSU, which technically isn't enough for an 8600GT, so I was planning on upgrading the PSU as well. I was thinking about just picking up a 500w or somewhere around there from circuit city or best buy. I think that the PSU isn't giving enough power to my components, as I have a Core 2 Quad, so I thank that could be affecting my performance right now.[/QUOTE]no, a GTX+ IS infact an OC'd GTX, BUT its made on a 55 nm die, unlike the original, wich is 65 nm, so, that makes it cooler, more overclockable, therefore, superiorhell, a 250w psu is enough for a 8600.... i dunno if u can get it in usa/UK (or wehere ure from) but i got a VERY nice 40$ 580w Eurotech PSU , with, at least, remarkeable cpecs (the ''experts will think so, i presume) it has:46A on teh 12v rail, 87% eficiency rating, the only BAD thing bout it, is that its not modular, but, with a good case (like mine, the TT soprano RS101) u dont need to worry, since u can hide the cables in teh drive baysif a eurotech is not possible, shoot for a corsair 550VX[QUOTE=''theGuY343419''][QUOTE=''Atomicfireball'']I am in the market for an upgrade from my old 8600GT. I don't want to go higher than $200. At first I was looking at the 8800s, but the ATI 4800s and nvidia 9800s came out. Heres the 2 I am looking at right nao. Radeon 4850 - $170 http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3921310%26CatId=3670 and 9800GTX -$150 after rebate http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3732815%26CatId=3670 I have been hearing conflicting reports on which is better. And I have concerns about the 9800 fitting in the case. http://images.compusa.com/itemdetails/M975-5178/M975-5178-out2-la.jpg there is a picture of the case. I bought an hp with that case, because at the time the refurbished prebuilt was cheaper than the quad core that came in it.[/QUOTE]Just bought the Asus 4850. Amazing card. Highly Recommend it! Runs Crysis all-high, 4x AA, no lag whatsoever.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253Cheaper than compusa, free shipping too! ;) [/QUOTE]yup, i love mine, all my games except crysis now run at over 100 fps :Djust a bit of advice, OC that E6300... itl increase ur performance A LOT, i mean, a 600 mhz OC on my Q6600 gave me like 40 extra fps in games
[QUOTE=''GTR2addict''] [QUOTE=''Atomicfireball'']I read on the internet that all what a GTX+ is an over clocked GTX, is that true, and is that a process you can do yourself? Also, i have a 300w PSU, which technically isn't enough for an 8600GT, so I was planning on upgrading the PSU as well. I was thinking about just picking up a 500w or somewhere around there from circuit city or best buy. I think that the PSU isn't giving enough power to my components, as I have a Core 2 Quad, so I thank that could be affecting my performance right now.[/QUOTE]no, a GTX+ IS infact an OC'd GTX, BUT its made on a 55 nm die, unlike the original, wich is 65 nm, so, that makes it cooler, more overclockable, therefore, superiorhell, a 250w psu is enough for a 8600.... i dunno if u can get it in usa/UK (or wehere ure from) but i got a VERY nice 40$ 580w Eurotech PSU , with, at least, remarkeable cpecs (the ''experts will think so, i presume) it has:46A on teh 12v rail, 87% eficiency rating, the only BAD thing bout it, is that its not modular, but, with a good case (like mine, the TT soprano RS101) u dont need to worry, since u can hide the cables in teh drive baysif a eurotech is not possible, shoot for a corsair 550VX[QUOTE=''theGuY343419''] [QUOTE=''Atomicfireball'']I am in the market for an upgrade from my old 8600GT. I don't want to go higher than $200. At first I was looking at the 8800s, but the ATI 4800s and nvidia 9800s came out. Heres the 2 I am looking at right nao. Radeon 4850 - $170 http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3921310%26CatId=3670 and 9800GTX -$150 after rebate http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3732815%26CatId=3670 I have been hearing conflicting reports on which is better. And I have concerns about the 9800 fitting in the case. http://images.compusa.com/itemdetails/M975-5178/M975-5178-out2-la.jpg there is a picture of the case. I bought an hp with that case, because at the time the refurbished prebuilt was cheaper than the quad core that came in it.[/QUOTE]Just bought the Asus 4850. Amazing card. Highly Recommend it! Runs Crysis all-high, 4x AA, no lag whatsoever.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253Cheaper than compusa, free shipping too! ;) [/QUOTE]yup, i love mine, all my games except crysis now run at over 100 fps :Djust a bit of advice, OC that E6300... itl increase ur performance A LOT, i mean, a 600 mhz OC on my Q6600 gave me like 40 extra fps in games [/QUOTE] 40 extra FPS ?? You must play at a very very low resolution or your lying
Well, unless you have the PSU to handle it, neither of them will be good for you.EDIT: Seems your PSU can't handle either of them. A good PSU that can handle either is gonna cost you $50 at minimum. Unless you find a good PSU for about $30, or you can afford about 20-30 bucks more, you're gonna have to go with the 9800 GTX. Of course, the HD4850 is better....Then again, $150 for a 9800 GTX isn't that bad. O_O-$50 from the MSRP.
Get the 4850, I'll be buying this one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127359
comes with a free copy of GRid and has a rebate.
[QUOTE=''mastershake575''][QUOTE=''GTR2addict''] [QUOTE=''Atomicfireball'']I read on the internet that all what a GTX+ is an over clocked GTX, is that true, and is that a process you can do yourself? Also, i have a 300w PSU, which technically isn't enough for an 8600GT, so I was planning on upgrading the PSU as well. I was thinking about just picking up a 500w or somewhere around there from circuit city or best buy. I think that the PSU isn't giving enough power to my components, as I have a Core 2 Quad, so I thank that could be affecting my performance right now.[/QUOTE]no, a GTX+ IS infact an OC'd GTX, BUT its made on a 55 nm die, unlike the original, wich is 65 nm, so, that makes it cooler, more overclockable, therefore, superiorhell, a 250w psu is enough for a 8600.... i dunno if u can get it in usa/UK (or wehere ure from) but i got a VERY nice 40$ 580w Eurotech PSU , with, at least, remarkeable cpecs (the ''experts will think so, i presume) it has:46A on teh 12v rail, 87% eficiency rating, the only BAD thing bout it, is that its not modular, but, with a good case (like mine, the TT soprano RS101) u dont need to worry, since u can hide the cables in teh drive baysif a eurotech is not possible, shoot for a corsair 550VX[QUOTE=''theGuY343419''] [QUOTE=''Atomicfireball'']I am in the market for an upgrade from my old 8600GT. I don't want to go higher than $200. At first I was looking at the 8800s, but the ATI 4800s and nvidia 9800s came out. Heres the 2 I am looking at right nao. Radeon 4850 - $170 http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3921310%26CatId=3670 and 9800GTX -$150 after rebate http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3732815%26CatId=3670 I have been hearing conflicting reports on which is better. And I have concerns about the 9800 fitting in the case. http://images.compusa.com/itemdetails/M975-5178/M975-5178-out2-la.jpg there is a picture of the case. I bought an hp with that case, because at the time the refurbished prebuilt was cheaper than the quad core that came in it.[/QUOTE]Just bought the Asus 4850. Amazing card. Highly Recommend it! Runs Crysis all-high, 4x AA, no lag whatsoever.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253Cheaper than compusa, free shipping too! ;) [/QUOTE]yup, i love mine, all my games except crysis now run at over 100 fps :Djust a bit of advice, OC that E6300... itl increase ur performance A LOT, i mean, a 600 mhz OC on my Q6600 gave me like 40 extra fps in games [/QUOTE] 40 extra FPS ?? You must play at a very very low resolution or your lying [/QUOTE]1280x1024... im ashamed of my small lcd...
[QUOTE=''smack_masta'']Get the 4850, I'll be buying this one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127359
comes with a free copy of GRid and has a rebate.
[/QUOTE]If Crossfire is in your plans, don't buy the MSI because it doesn't come with a crossfire bridge.
Newegg sells the [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371019]Antec Basiq 500W[/url] for $40 w/ free shipping.
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