Specs: 620w PSU, 3870 HD , Q6600 @ 2.4, 4GB DDR2.What parts should I replace soon and with what? Keep in mind that I have not overclocked anything.How much longer will my computer last ?
If you want to play all game with max graphic setting... it last this year... You should change your HD 3870 with HD4870...How much longer will my computer last ?
I have the same question..
q6600, 8800gts 512, 4gb ram, 520 psu
[QUOTE=''Nibroc420'']I have the same question..
q6600, 8800gts 512, 4gb ram, 520 psu
[/QUOTE]Maybe until Q2 2009...
Why would his system last longer? Doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE=''raptorcountry'']Why would his system last longer? Doesn't make sense. [/QUOTE]8800GTS > HD3870. If you change to a HD4870 it should last at least a couple years.
[QUOTE=''WDT-BlackKat''][QUOTE=''raptorcountry'']Why would his system last longer? Doesn't make sense. [/QUOTE]8800GTS > HD3870. If you change to a HD4870 it should last at least a couple years.[/QUOTE]WDT-BlackKat answer the question...
[QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''Nibroc420'']I have the same question..
q6600, 8800gts 512, 4gb ram, 520 psu
[/QUOTE]Maybe until Q2 2009... [/QUOTE]
guess i should be prepared to upgrade my gpu mid 2009 then
[QUOTE=''Aldouz'']If you want to play all game with max graphic setting... it last this year... You should change your HD 3870 with HD4870...[/QUOTE] This answer is misleading. Should have just said, change the GPU and it will last 2 more years. End of story. I would wait for HD4870x2 seeing as how you're not time pressured. It's just around the corner and it should perform dead even with HD4870 Crossfire if not better in SOME games. If you have a crossfire mobo, you're set for Quadfire. 2 years sounds about right. Depends how Nehalem turns out. Just be happy with your build, make the necessary changes here and there, like the GPU, add a few touches and go with the flow. Technology will always change rapidly when it comes to PC gaming, so dont expect to hold onto your build for a long time. I would suggest to stop looking at the technology and look at the games. Are the games utilizing all of this technology like DDR3 and Nehalem, etc? If not, then dont sweat it.. Crysis is probably like the only game on the planet that is demanding. Your build can probably run all games besides Crysis on max for another year or two.
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Would this work ???
Would I be able to put an 8800gt into this computer http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=%26langid=EN%26sku_id=0926INGFS10107504%26catid=20217Would this work ???
No. It has an insufficient power supply, insufficient cooling, and because it is an Inspiron it probably has a non-standard motherboard that based on other's issues with large cards, will not fit the 8800 GT.What you need to do is go to some Canadian equivalent to newegg.com such as ncix and buy parts to assemble a computer from scratch. With a $1000 budget sans monitor you can get a nigh top of the line computer by building yourself and that's the same money you would have spent on that piece of junk Dell and the video card. Would this work ???
[QUOTE=''deathx112''] Would I be able to put an 8800gt into this computer http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=%26langid=EN%26sku_id=0926INGFS10107504%26catid=20217[/QUOTE] Stay away from retail PCs if you want PC gaming. Instead of forking over $500+ for a retail PC that is very limited, put that money towards building your own PC like BlackKat said.. You'll be much more satisfied at the end of the day when you're gaming on your very own PC, built by YOU.
No. It has an insufficient power supply, insufficient cooling, and because it is an Inspiron it probably has a non-standard motherboard that based on other's issues with large cards, will not fit the 8800 GT.What you need to do is go to some Canadian equivalent to newegg.com such as ncix and buy parts to assemble a computer from scratch. With a $1000 budget sans monitor you can get a nigh top of the line computer by building yourself and that's the same money you would have spent on that piece of junk Dell and the video card. Would this work ???
[QUOTE=''deathx112''] Would I be able to put an 8800gt into this computer http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=%26langid=EN%26sku_id=0926INGFS10107504%26catid=20217[/QUOTE] Stay away from retail PCs if you want PC gaming. Instead of forking over $500+ for a retail PC that is very limited, put that money towards building your own PC like BlackKat said.. You'll be much more satisfied at the end of the day when you're gaming on your very own PC, built by YOU.
Realistically, how hard would it be for me to build a PC?
OK the most advanced thing I've done inside of a computer is changing RAM... realistically, how long would it take for someone like me to learn how to build a PC and build one?Realistically, how hard would it be for me to build a PC?
I haven't ever built one, but I'm sure people here would say it's not hard at all. There are videos on YouTube telling you how, and everybody here would give you the parts you need for building a computer. Realistically, how hard would it be for me to build a PC?
Learning how would not take you very long. Just read a good guide on the Internet. It's simpler than you think. As long as you can read instructions and don't do anything stupid, you'll be fine. Actually building it shouldn't take you more than a few hours, depending on how fast you go. Newegg.com is my favorite place to buy computer parts. Good luck on your build.
For the building processor it takes about 1-2 hours if you want to be real careful and as for learning just read these guides http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1NxsHpaL_s http://www.corsairmemory.com/systembuild/report.aspx?report_id=78237%26sid=1 (ignore the heatsink and bios section) and ask a few questions here. That should be enough since its really not that hard, I did it at a very young age, you have a board to help you, and you only have to buy 8-9 parts.
OK thanks a ton! Sounds alot easier than I thought. I'm considering doing this soon. :)
its pretty easy, but you will want a few hours. basicly everything has slots that fit into each other and most mobs now have labels on the mob saying what all the conectors are for. you just plug the bits into the mob like lego. all the parts have detailed instructions saying how to install them. just make sure you put risers under the mob in the case
Its pretty easy. I would recomend a modular power supply though. The thing that slowed me down was the excess cables and how to hide them.
Do a lot of research before buying any items ,make sure that you have everything compatible,and the quick installation guide that comes with the motherboard will help alot,make sure that you have a friend or someone to rely on in-case of having any problemsIf your build went fine,believe me ,you will become addicted to building your own pcs ......lol
Depends on your build. It took me several hours because it was my first time building a PC. 8 hours because I had to read manuals, ask questions on the forum, watch Youtube videos, and read guides. My actual time, physically putting the PC together would probably total out to be less but it was pretty time consuming, not to mention overwhelming for me. When I got everything up and running, I had to make sure everything was working properly. I did run into some issues but a few questions here and there and they were addressed and fixed. On top of that, I had to redo all of my cabling and wire management because I didnt do a great job when I first put it together. Now, it's so spacious inside and very roomy. Air flows perfectly. Hamsters can run around in it and not trip over cables or wires. As a newbie, I think I did an excellent job. You gotta have a lot of will and determination, and if you have a HUGE case like mine, lift with your knees, not with your back. It's going to take quite the effort. But it's not impossible. Once you're done, it's going to be so EASY building your next PC. That's how I feel now. But the first run through will be a bit overwhelming and complicated. Make sure to ask a lot of questions on the PC Hardware forum because someone will definitely help you, and keep bumping your thread if it's not answered. That's what I did. You're going to be fine. Best of luck and enjoy.
I haven't ever built one, but I'm sure people here would say it's not hard at all. There are videos on YouTube telling you how, and everybody here would give you the parts you need for building a computer. Realistically, how hard would it be for me to build a PC?
Learning how would not take you very long. Just read a good guide on the Internet. It's simpler than you think. As long as you can read instructions and don't do anything stupid, you'll be fine. Actually building it shouldn't take you more than a few hours, depending on how fast you go. Newegg.com is my favorite place to buy computer parts. Good luck on your build.
For the building processor it takes about 1-2 hours if you want to be real careful and as for learning just read these guides http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1NxsHpaL_s http://www.corsairmemory.com/systembuild/report.aspx?report_id=78237%26sid=1 (ignore the heatsink and bios section) and ask a few questions here. That should be enough since its really not that hard, I did it at a very young age, you have a board to help you, and you only have to buy 8-9 parts.
OK thanks a ton! Sounds alot easier than I thought. I'm considering doing this soon. :)
its pretty easy, but you will want a few hours. basicly everything has slots that fit into each other and most mobs now have labels on the mob saying what all the conectors are for. you just plug the bits into the mob like lego. all the parts have detailed instructions saying how to install them. just make sure you put risers under the mob in the case
Its pretty easy. I would recomend a modular power supply though. The thing that slowed me down was the excess cables and how to hide them.
Do a lot of research before buying any items ,make sure that you have everything compatible,and the quick installation guide that comes with the motherboard will help alot,make sure that you have a friend or someone to rely on in-case of having any problemsIf your build went fine,believe me ,you will become addicted to building your own pcs ......lol
Depends on your build. It took me several hours because it was my first time building a PC. 8 hours because I had to read manuals, ask questions on the forum, watch Youtube videos, and read guides. My actual time, physically putting the PC together would probably total out to be less but it was pretty time consuming, not to mention overwhelming for me. When I got everything up and running, I had to make sure everything was working properly. I did run into some issues but a few questions here and there and they were addressed and fixed. On top of that, I had to redo all of my cabling and wire management because I didnt do a great job when I first put it together. Now, it's so spacious inside and very roomy. Air flows perfectly. Hamsters can run around in it and not trip over cables or wires. As a newbie, I think I did an excellent job. You gotta have a lot of will and determination, and if you have a HUGE case like mine, lift with your knees, not with your back. It's going to take quite the effort. But it's not impossible. Once you're done, it's going to be so EASY building your next PC. That's how I feel now. But the first run through will be a bit overwhelming and complicated. Make sure to ask a lot of questions on the PC Hardware forum because someone will definitely help you, and keep bumping your thread if it's not answered. That's what I did. You're going to be fine. Best of luck and enjoy.
another rate my computer specs
Intel core 2 quad Q6600 2.40 ghz
4 gigs ram
Vista home 64 bit
2x Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT in SLI
600watt
i did a performence scan with vista and they tell me everything is 5.9 (processor, graphics, gaming graphics, and primary hard disk) but they give me ram a 5.2 but it detects my 4ganother rate my computer specs
nice system you got there. 8/10 :Danother rate my computer specs
cowmoonson post your set up :'(!!! rate mines! naooo
not bad not bad =) rate mine (quadcore btw):
Case Coolermaster Airbrushed Stacker 830 Gaming Case w/420W Power Supply Diamond Plate )
Case Lighting ( Cold Cathode Neon Light Blue )
Power Supply ( 1250 Watt -- CoolerMaster Real Power Pro Power Supply Quad SLI Ready )
Processor ( [=== Quad Core ===] Intel Core 2 Extreme Quad-Core Processor QX9650 (4x 3.0GHz/12MB L2 Cache/1333FSB) Free 4GB Pen Drive )
Processor Cooling ( ULTRA ChillTec Thermo Electric CPU Cooler a solid-state active heat pump capable of transferring heat from one side of the device to the other )
Motherboard ( [SLI] Asus Striker II Formula nForce?780i SLI Chipset w/7.1 Sound, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 3-Way PC 3-Way SLI %26 EPU Technology )
Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR2-1066 PC2 8500 Memory Module Corsair Dominator )
Video Card ( 2x NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB w/DVI + TV Out Video - running SLI mode )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA )
Hard Drive ( 750 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )
2nd Hard Drive ( 1.5TB (750GB x2) HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )
External Hard Drives [USB 2.0/eSATA] ( [USB 2.0] 1.5TB External Storage (2x 750GB, SATA-II, 7200RPM, Raid-0 Hard Drive) )
CD/DVD Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] LG GGC-H20L BLU-RAY/HD-DVD Reader %26 DVD盧/盧W Burner Internal Combo Drive Black )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] LG GGW-H20L BLU-RAY Re-Writer %26 DVD盧/盧W Burner Internal Combo Drive Black --- [reads and burns High Definition Blu-Ray discs, as well as DVD and CD formats] )
Sound Card ( Creative Lab Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series )
Speaker System ( [Black] Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Speakers + Subwoofer )
Network Card ( Killer M1- Online Gaming Accelerator - w/ 400Mhz Network Processing Unit + Lag %26 Latency Reduction Technology )
Floppy Drive ( Mitsumi 1.44 MB Internal Floppy Drive Beige )
Monitor: Acer AL2423WD ( ET.F23WZ.D02 ) Flatscreen monitor
Keyboard: Razer Lycosa
Mouse: Razer Krait
USB 2.0 Accessories ( [USB 2.0] External Super Slim Hard Drive -- 320 GB 5400rpm with Enclosure )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( [USB] XION XON-SAHDCB-USB SATA HDD to USB 2.0 Dock Station Mounting HDD within seconds and fit both 2.5'' and 3.5'' SATA HDD to USB 2.0 of your PC )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( [USB] Numerical Keypad )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( Add External USB 2.0 Hub (4x USB 2.0 Ports) )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( Built-in USB 2.0 Ports )
Meter Display ( NZXT Sentry LX Aluminum Fan Control, Clock, and Temperature LCD Display )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( External 12-In-1 USB Flash Media Card Reader/Writer )
Operation System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) 64-Bit )
Additional Software ( MS Office 2007 Professional Edition )
Additional Software ( MS Office 2007 Small business Edition )
Additional Software ( MS Office 2007 Basic Edition )
Additional Software ( MS Works Plus 2008 )
Additional Software
Case Round Cable ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower )
Case Round Cable ( Rounded Cables for Floppy/HDD/CD/DVD/CD-RW/DVD-RW Drives )
Case Round Cable ( Tuniq TX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound the best interface between your CPU and the heatsinks by its unique designed molecular size and shape )
USB Flash Drive Kingston DataTraveler HyperX 8GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive )
SteelSound 5Hv2 Pro Gaming Headset
Power Protection ( Opti-UPS VS575C Battery Back-up UPS )
External Wireless Network Adapter ( Zonet 802.11G 54 Mbps Wireless USB pen drive w/ Extended USB cradle hub the USB adapter provides 30% greater range than standard 802.11g - to maintain solid connections throughout your home or small business while providing a maximum performance of 54Mbps. )
External Wireless Network Adapter ( Netgear WG311 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter )
External Wireless Network Adapter ( LinkSys WUSB54G 802.11g 54Mbps Wireless USB Adapter )
External Wireless Network Adapter Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter + GigaByte GN-AT2050D 2.4GHz Indoor Omni-Directional Dipole Antenna )
External Wireless Network Adapter Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter )
Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( Netgear WGT624 802.11g Wireless 4-Port FireWall Router )
Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( Netgear WG602 802.11g 54 Mbps Wireless Access Point )
Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( Zonet ZSR1124WE 802.11g Cable/DSL Wireless Broadband Router w/4-Port LAN Switch includes 3dBi + 6dBi Omni-Directional Antenna for Wider Coverage(outdoor: upto 1312 ft.) )
)
Holy thats so long. 11/10
/P not a bad way to spend more than 7000$;)
[QUOTE=''metal_head_5566'']Intel core 2 quad Q6600 2.40 ghz
4 gigs ram
Vista home 64 bit
2x Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT in SLI
600watt
i did a performence scan with vista and they tell me everything is 5.9 (processor, graphics, gaming graphics, and primary hard disk) but they give me ram a 5.2 but it detects my 4g[/QUOTE]10/10 it's perfect... If you want to make your RAM faster, try to increase your CPU FSB by overclocking...
[QUOTE=''FaceKicker'']/P not a bad way to spend more than 7000$;)[/QUOTE]you spent over $7000 and you only have two 9800x2's? Are you super serial? Not that two 9800x2's are bad, heck, if some guy walked by me holding two 9800x2's I'd cry at his feet, but over 7 grand and you only get that? Why? oh and can you take some system pics for me so I can frame them?
[QUOTE=''alpowerfull''][QUOTE=''FaceKicker'']/P not a bad way to spend more than 7000$;)[/QUOTE]you spent over $7000 and you only have two 9800x2's? Are you super serial? Not that two 9800x2's are bad, heck, if some guy walked by me holding two 9800x2's I'd cry at his feet, but over 7 grand and you only get that? Why? [/QUOTE] Because he's a man bear pig.
[QUOTE=''f-a-d-3''][QUOTE=''alpowerfull''][QUOTE=''FaceKicker'']/P not a bad way to spend more than 7000$;)[/QUOTE]you spent over $7000 and you only have two 9800x2's? Are you super serial? Not that two 9800x2's are bad, heck, if some guy walked by me holding two 9800x2's I'd cry at his feet, but over 7 grand and you only get that? Why? [/QUOTE] Because he's a man bear pig. [/QUOTE]are you super serial?
well the configuration wasmade on a site from Intel, they're not like the cheapest company but I know that the quality is good, the cards may be bad but i can put 2 8800 GTX cards in it and burn them all down so I'm always looking at the quality first, not necessarily the power or whatever, btw when I bought that one those things were pretty new to the market or at least most of them and as you know, when things come to the market, the first half year the prizes are somewhat insane, if you would buy that one right now it would be much less in price, I should've wait i know but I am looking to some of the Paladin series and probably going to sell this one and buy one of the paladin series...
[QUOTE=''FaceKicker'']
External Wireless Network Adapter ( Zonet 802.11G 54 Mbps Wireless USB pen drive w/ Extended USB cradle hub the USB adapter provides 30% greater range than standard 802.11g - to maintain solid connections throughout your home or small business while providing a maximum performance of 54Mbps. )
External Wireless Network Adapter ( Netgear WG311 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter )
External Wireless Network Adapter ( LinkSys WUSB54G 802.11g 54Mbps Wireless USB Adapter )
External Wireless Network Adapter Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter + GigaByte GN-AT2050D 2.4GHz Indoor Omni-Directional Dipole Antenna )
External Wireless Network Adapter Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter )
Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( Netgear WGT624 802.11g Wireless 4-Port FireWall Router )
Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( Netgear WG602 802.11g 54 Mbps Wireless Access Point )
Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( Zonet ZSR1124WE 802.11g Cable/DSL Wireless Broadband Router w/4-Port LAN Switch includes 3dBi + 6dBi Omni-Directional Antenna for Wider Coverage(outdoor: upto 1312 ft.) )
) [/QUOTE]yeah I really like 9800x2 series anyways, performs good in slijust wondering why you got 5 network adapters and 3 routers, are you afriad one will die? did you think you'd get faster internet? are you trying to give wirless internet to all of china? or just for teh lulz?I'm curious
this quadcore isn't the only computer in the house to be honest;)
dubbelpost sorry xDwell and I had problems before with the routers and so I thought like 'hey I don't want to end up like the last time a whole week without internet just because (and i still don't know how) everything just went to hell so that's why, better to have too many than just having one, that's how i think about it
Apevia Jupiter-x caseQ6600@ 3.4ghzArctic Cooling Freezer 7 pro 4gb G.Skill ddr2 1066OCZ gamexstream 700w psuSeagate Barracuda 500 GB 7200 rpm 32mb cacheAsus P5Q Pro motherboardRadeon 4870 (second one to come once i get a job ;)Acer 22'' LCD
I need a new hdd, I swear the one I have feels like it has 5kb cache
Well, whatever makes you happy Facekicker. Although I find $7000 for a PC extremely unecessary, you're entitled to your happiness. You only live once. Knock on wood, you may walk out the door and die tomorrow. So, more power to you. Seems like you're wealthy so you're not hurting anyone. Just make sure to donate money to charity and the church. ;) My build is in my sig. Try not to be harsh. :PNote: As you can tell, I haven't overclocked yet. I plan to OC, but I have to wait one more week to break it in.
Trust me, 'wealth' is a big word if you think i'm wealth;)and i do give money to charity, especially to foundations who take care of children with diabetics, 'cause i'm diabetic myself since i was born;) I maybe have a bit of money but my heart is still on the right place don't worry :)
btw your build isn't really bad to be honest, even I would be already happy with something like that, especially the case;)
[QUOTE=''FaceKicker'']btw your build isn't really bad to be honest, even I would be already happy with something like that, especially the case;)[/QUOTE] It isnt really bad compared to your build, but it's a beast for the average hardcore PC gamer. I max out every game, even Crysis with very playable framerates, so I'm pretty much set for a while. It's my first build too, and I did it myself. Yeah, I'm proud of that. :P The case is sexy but it's not going to do until I get one more fan for the blowhole. I have 4 fans so far. Temps are good but not great. But then again, it could be the weather here in Southern California. Like I said, I haven't overclocked yet and I dont need a Quad because all I do is websurf and play games. And I plan to upgrade to HD4870 Crossfire or HD4870x2, depending on the outcome of benchmarks and pricing. Also, I'll be running RAID 0 with the Raptor X's along with the GPU upgrade. If I go Quadfire, that PSU has to go. Realistically, I'm looking at Crossfire HD4870. I'm through spending any more money on this build. I already spent $2000 on everything and that to me is already overkill. My priority with this rig is Crossfire. That's about it.
4 gigs ram
Vista home 64 bit
2x Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT in SLI
600watt
i did a performence scan with vista and they tell me everything is 5.9 (processor, graphics, gaming graphics, and primary hard disk) but they give me ram a 5.2 but it detects my 4ganother rate my computer specs
nice system you got there. 8/10 :Danother rate my computer specs
cowmoonson post your set up :'(!!! rate mines! naooo
not bad not bad =) rate mine (quadcore btw):
Case Coolermaster Airbrushed Stacker 830 Gaming Case w/420W Power Supply Diamond Plate )
Case Lighting ( Cold Cathode Neon Light Blue )
Power Supply ( 1250 Watt -- CoolerMaster Real Power Pro Power Supply Quad SLI Ready )
Processor ( [=== Quad Core ===] Intel Core 2 Extreme Quad-Core Processor QX9650 (4x 3.0GHz/12MB L2 Cache/1333FSB) Free 4GB Pen Drive )
Processor Cooling ( ULTRA ChillTec Thermo Electric CPU Cooler a solid-state active heat pump capable of transferring heat from one side of the device to the other )
Motherboard ( [SLI] Asus Striker II Formula nForce?780i SLI Chipset w/7.1 Sound, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 3-Way PC 3-Way SLI %26 EPU Technology )
Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR2-1066 PC2 8500 Memory Module Corsair Dominator )
Video Card ( 2x NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB w/DVI + TV Out Video - running SLI mode )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA )
Hard Drive ( 750 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )
2nd Hard Drive ( 1.5TB (750GB x2) HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )
External Hard Drives [USB 2.0/eSATA] ( [USB 2.0] 1.5TB External Storage (2x 750GB, SATA-II, 7200RPM, Raid-0 Hard Drive) )
CD/DVD Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] LG GGC-H20L BLU-RAY/HD-DVD Reader %26 DVD盧/盧W Burner Internal Combo Drive Black )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] LG GGW-H20L BLU-RAY Re-Writer %26 DVD盧/盧W Burner Internal Combo Drive Black --- [reads and burns High Definition Blu-Ray discs, as well as DVD and CD formats] )
Sound Card ( Creative Lab Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series )
Speaker System ( [Black] Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Speakers + Subwoofer )
Network Card ( Killer M1- Online Gaming Accelerator - w/ 400Mhz Network Processing Unit + Lag %26 Latency Reduction Technology )
Floppy Drive ( Mitsumi 1.44 MB Internal Floppy Drive Beige )
Monitor: Acer AL2423WD ( ET.F23WZ.D02 ) Flatscreen monitor
Keyboard: Razer Lycosa
Mouse: Razer Krait
USB 2.0 Accessories ( [USB 2.0] External Super Slim Hard Drive -- 320 GB 5400rpm with Enclosure )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( [USB] XION XON-SAHDCB-USB SATA HDD to USB 2.0 Dock Station Mounting HDD within seconds and fit both 2.5'' and 3.5'' SATA HDD to USB 2.0 of your PC )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( [USB] Numerical Keypad )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( Add External USB 2.0 Hub (4x USB 2.0 Ports) )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( Built-in USB 2.0 Ports )
Meter Display ( NZXT Sentry LX Aluminum Fan Control, Clock, and Temperature LCD Display )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( External 12-In-1 USB Flash Media Card Reader/Writer )
Operation System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) 64-Bit )
Additional Software ( MS Office 2007 Professional Edition )
Additional Software ( MS Office 2007 Small business Edition )
Additional Software ( MS Office 2007 Basic Edition )
Additional Software ( MS Works Plus 2008 )
Additional Software
Case Round Cable ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower )
Case Round Cable ( Rounded Cables for Floppy/HDD/CD/DVD/CD-RW/DVD-RW Drives )
Case Round Cable ( Tuniq TX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound the best interface between your CPU and the heatsinks by its unique designed molecular size and shape )
USB Flash Drive Kingston DataTraveler HyperX 8GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive )
SteelSound 5Hv2 Pro Gaming Headset
Power Protection ( Opti-UPS VS575C Battery Back-up UPS )
External Wireless Network Adapter ( Zonet 802.11G 54 Mbps Wireless USB pen drive w/ Extended USB cradle hub the USB adapter provides 30% greater range than standard 802.11g - to maintain solid connections throughout your home or small business while providing a maximum performance of 54Mbps. )
External Wireless Network Adapter ( Netgear WG311 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter )
External Wireless Network Adapter ( LinkSys WUSB54G 802.11g 54Mbps Wireless USB Adapter )
External Wireless Network Adapter Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter + GigaByte GN-AT2050D 2.4GHz Indoor Omni-Directional Dipole Antenna )
External Wireless Network Adapter Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter )
Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( Netgear WGT624 802.11g Wireless 4-Port FireWall Router )
Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( Netgear WG602 802.11g 54 Mbps Wireless Access Point )
Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( Zonet ZSR1124WE 802.11g Cable/DSL Wireless Broadband Router w/4-Port LAN Switch includes 3dBi + 6dBi Omni-Directional Antenna for Wider Coverage(outdoor: upto 1312 ft.) )
)
Holy thats so long. 11/10
/P not a bad way to spend more than 7000$;)
[QUOTE=''metal_head_5566'']Intel core 2 quad Q6600 2.40 ghz
4 gigs ram
Vista home 64 bit
2x Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT in SLI
600watt
i did a performence scan with vista and they tell me everything is 5.9 (processor, graphics, gaming graphics, and primary hard disk) but they give me ram a 5.2 but it detects my 4g[/QUOTE]10/10 it's perfect... If you want to make your RAM faster, try to increase your CPU FSB by overclocking...
[QUOTE=''FaceKicker'']/P not a bad way to spend more than 7000$;)[/QUOTE]you spent over $7000 and you only have two 9800x2's? Are you super serial? Not that two 9800x2's are bad, heck, if some guy walked by me holding two 9800x2's I'd cry at his feet, but over 7 grand and you only get that? Why? oh and can you take some system pics for me so I can frame them?
[QUOTE=''alpowerfull''][QUOTE=''FaceKicker'']/P not a bad way to spend more than 7000$;)[/QUOTE]you spent over $7000 and you only have two 9800x2's? Are you super serial? Not that two 9800x2's are bad, heck, if some guy walked by me holding two 9800x2's I'd cry at his feet, but over 7 grand and you only get that? Why? [/QUOTE] Because he's a man bear pig.
[QUOTE=''f-a-d-3''][QUOTE=''alpowerfull''][QUOTE=''FaceKicker'']/P not a bad way to spend more than 7000$;)[/QUOTE]you spent over $7000 and you only have two 9800x2's? Are you super serial? Not that two 9800x2's are bad, heck, if some guy walked by me holding two 9800x2's I'd cry at his feet, but over 7 grand and you only get that? Why? [/QUOTE] Because he's a man bear pig. [/QUOTE]are you super serial?
well the configuration wasmade on a site from Intel, they're not like the cheapest company but I know that the quality is good, the cards may be bad but i can put 2 8800 GTX cards in it and burn them all down so I'm always looking at the quality first, not necessarily the power or whatever, btw when I bought that one those things were pretty new to the market or at least most of them and as you know, when things come to the market, the first half year the prizes are somewhat insane, if you would buy that one right now it would be much less in price, I should've wait i know but I am looking to some of the Paladin series and probably going to sell this one and buy one of the paladin series...
[QUOTE=''FaceKicker'']
External Wireless Network Adapter ( Zonet 802.11G 54 Mbps Wireless USB pen drive w/ Extended USB cradle hub the USB adapter provides 30% greater range than standard 802.11g - to maintain solid connections throughout your home or small business while providing a maximum performance of 54Mbps. )
External Wireless Network Adapter ( Netgear WG311 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter )
External Wireless Network Adapter ( LinkSys WUSB54G 802.11g 54Mbps Wireless USB Adapter )
External Wireless Network Adapter Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter + GigaByte GN-AT2050D 2.4GHz Indoor Omni-Directional Dipole Antenna )
External Wireless Network Adapter Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter )
Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( Netgear WGT624 802.11g Wireless 4-Port FireWall Router )
Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( Netgear WG602 802.11g 54 Mbps Wireless Access Point )
Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( Zonet ZSR1124WE 802.11g Cable/DSL Wireless Broadband Router w/4-Port LAN Switch includes 3dBi + 6dBi Omni-Directional Antenna for Wider Coverage(outdoor: upto 1312 ft.) )
) [/QUOTE]yeah I really like 9800x2 series anyways, performs good in slijust wondering why you got 5 network adapters and 3 routers, are you afriad one will die? did you think you'd get faster internet? are you trying to give wirless internet to all of china? or just for teh lulz?I'm curious
this quadcore isn't the only computer in the house to be honest;)
dubbelpost sorry xDwell and I had problems before with the routers and so I thought like 'hey I don't want to end up like the last time a whole week without internet just because (and i still don't know how) everything just went to hell so that's why, better to have too many than just having one, that's how i think about it
Apevia Jupiter-x caseQ6600@ 3.4ghzArctic Cooling Freezer 7 pro 4gb G.Skill ddr2 1066OCZ gamexstream 700w psuSeagate Barracuda 500 GB 7200 rpm 32mb cacheAsus P5Q Pro motherboardRadeon 4870 (second one to come once i get a job ;)Acer 22'' LCD
I need a new hdd, I swear the one I have feels like it has 5kb cache
Well, whatever makes you happy Facekicker. Although I find $7000 for a PC extremely unecessary, you're entitled to your happiness. You only live once. Knock on wood, you may walk out the door and die tomorrow. So, more power to you. Seems like you're wealthy so you're not hurting anyone. Just make sure to donate money to charity and the church. ;) My build is in my sig. Try not to be harsh. :PNote: As you can tell, I haven't overclocked yet. I plan to OC, but I have to wait one more week to break it in.
Trust me, 'wealth' is a big word if you think i'm wealth;)and i do give money to charity, especially to foundations who take care of children with diabetics, 'cause i'm diabetic myself since i was born;) I maybe have a bit of money but my heart is still on the right place don't worry :)
btw your build isn't really bad to be honest, even I would be already happy with something like that, especially the case;)
[QUOTE=''FaceKicker'']btw your build isn't really bad to be honest, even I would be already happy with something like that, especially the case;)[/QUOTE] It isnt really bad compared to your build, but it's a beast for the average hardcore PC gamer. I max out every game, even Crysis with very playable framerates, so I'm pretty much set for a while. It's my first build too, and I did it myself. Yeah, I'm proud of that. :P The case is sexy but it's not going to do until I get one more fan for the blowhole. I have 4 fans so far. Temps are good but not great. But then again, it could be the weather here in Southern California. Like I said, I haven't overclocked yet and I dont need a Quad because all I do is websurf and play games. And I plan to upgrade to HD4870 Crossfire or HD4870x2, depending on the outcome of benchmarks and pricing. Also, I'll be running RAID 0 with the Raptor X's along with the GPU upgrade. If I go Quadfire, that PSU has to go. Realistically, I'm looking at Crossfire HD4870. I'm through spending any more money on this build. I already spent $2000 on everything and that to me is already overkill. My priority with this rig is Crossfire. That's about it.
HD 4870 issue
Hello everyone,
I have an ATI 4870, i installed the latest catalyst driver and now when I go into games like COD4 or Combat Arms, the monitor flickers on and off for a few seconds randomly throughtout the game.
Sometimes it happens a lot, sometimes it doesnt as much. I have just gotten this card and its new. What is the problem? Anyone experience this as well?
thank you in advance.HD 4870 issue
[QUOTE=''behzadfs'']Hello everyone,
I have an ATI 4870, i installed the latest catalyst driver and now when I go into games like COD4 or Combat Arms, the monitor flickers on and off for a few seconds randomly throughtout the game.
Sometimes it happens a lot, sometimes it doesnt as much. I have just gotten this card and its new. What is the problem? Anyone experience this as well?
thank you in advance.[/QUOTE] I've gotten a couple game crashes. Once playing The Witcher, and once playing Crysis. I'll be honest, the HD4870 8.7 Catalyst Driver isnt nothing to brag to your friends about. It's suppose to make games more stable, and increase performance by 1% which is lackluster to say the least. I had a lot of trouble downloading the driver as well, getting errors and corrupt data. After a few tries, I was able to get it to download perfectly. If you dont feel like you want it, dont download it because it doesnt really do anything. If you can download it with no trouble, then get it. As for the flickering, I havent run into any, and I pray that I dont. Overall rating of 8.7 driver = Crap.HD 4870 issue
I have no issues with the 8.7 Catalyst suite.Did you make sure to remove any previous (Nvidia) drivers?Also, try and use the 8.6 4800 Hotfix drivers and see if they work. They're on the AMD Game site, top of the Radeon drivers page.Elann, if you're getting corrupt data downloads, you're either having problems with your network, RAM, HDD or motherboard.
[QUOTE=''Wesker776''] I have no issues with the 8.7 Catalyst suite.Did you make sure to remove any previous (Nvidia) drivers?Also, try and use the 8.6 4800 Hotfix drivers and see if they work. They're on the AMD Game site, top of the Radeon drivers page.Elann, if you're getting corrupt data downloads, you're either having problems with your network, RAM, HDD or motherboard.[/QUOTE] Could be. All I did to fix it was uninstall ATi components and CCC, re-installed, downloaded the new driver and it was fine after that.
have the heating and idle power consumption issues with the 4870 been fixed ? Im wondering whether to get the gtx 260 or 4870
I have an ATI 4870, i installed the latest catalyst driver and now when I go into games like COD4 or Combat Arms, the monitor flickers on and off for a few seconds randomly throughtout the game.
Sometimes it happens a lot, sometimes it doesnt as much. I have just gotten this card and its new. What is the problem? Anyone experience this as well?
thank you in advance.HD 4870 issue
[QUOTE=''behzadfs'']Hello everyone,
I have an ATI 4870, i installed the latest catalyst driver and now when I go into games like COD4 or Combat Arms, the monitor flickers on and off for a few seconds randomly throughtout the game.
Sometimes it happens a lot, sometimes it doesnt as much. I have just gotten this card and its new. What is the problem? Anyone experience this as well?
thank you in advance.[/QUOTE] I've gotten a couple game crashes. Once playing The Witcher, and once playing Crysis. I'll be honest, the HD4870 8.7 Catalyst Driver isnt nothing to brag to your friends about. It's suppose to make games more stable, and increase performance by 1% which is lackluster to say the least. I had a lot of trouble downloading the driver as well, getting errors and corrupt data. After a few tries, I was able to get it to download perfectly. If you dont feel like you want it, dont download it because it doesnt really do anything. If you can download it with no trouble, then get it. As for the flickering, I havent run into any, and I pray that I dont. Overall rating of 8.7 driver = Crap.HD 4870 issue
I have no issues with the 8.7 Catalyst suite.Did you make sure to remove any previous (Nvidia) drivers?Also, try and use the 8.6 4800 Hotfix drivers and see if they work. They're on the AMD Game site, top of the Radeon drivers page.Elann, if you're getting corrupt data downloads, you're either having problems with your network, RAM, HDD or motherboard.
[QUOTE=''Wesker776''] I have no issues with the 8.7 Catalyst suite.Did you make sure to remove any previous (Nvidia) drivers?Also, try and use the 8.6 4800 Hotfix drivers and see if they work. They're on the AMD Game site, top of the Radeon drivers page.Elann, if you're getting corrupt data downloads, you're either having problems with your network, RAM, HDD or motherboard.[/QUOTE] Could be. All I did to fix it was uninstall ATi components and CCC, re-installed, downloaded the new driver and it was fine after that.
have the heating and idle power consumption issues with the 4870 been fixed ? Im wondering whether to get the gtx 260 or 4870
Building a PC - can you help me pick out parts?
Hi! OK I have decided I will build a PC. :D But I need help with exactly WHAT I need to buy, what will be compatible with what, etc... Can you help pick out all the parts I would need to build the following? Thanks! (BTW I am from Canada so sadly I can't use newegg *cries*)I'm looking for one with:
Quad Core CPU
4 GB RAM
A really good video card (Recommendations??? :D)
Harddrive size doesn't really matter, maybe 300GB or whateverThe amount I wanna spend is around $1000 (not including tax), I can be flexible if it means big performance upgrade (like $1250 or even higher), but yeah. :D Just looking to build a good PC that will be able to play alot of the latest games and future games at high settings. I don't even know what to look for in a motherboard or power supply or anything like that though, so that's why I need help. So can you recommend me all of the parts and stuff that I would need to build my own?Thanks! :DBuilding a PC - can you help me pick out parts?
Because you're not from canada, i suggest ncix.com.
Good service, cheap shipping.
Building a PC - can you help me pick out parts?
Get either the 4850 or 4870, they are by far the best value for money right now!
I recommend the following parts:Gpu: sapphire ati 4870 Cpu :q6600Mother board: Gigabyte GA x48 (with upgrade to crossfire in mind)Ram: 2x2 g.skill 800Mhz Cpu fan:Arctic cooler Freezer 7 pro Case: Antec 900 Hard disk: Western Digital 500gbPsu:Thermaltake 700 (with modular cabling) total :1165 $I hope that this might help younote:I am sure 100% that all of these components are compatable,however,I can decrease the total amount of paid money by choosing other items (but might not be as future proof)
[QUOTE=''Games_pro''] I recommend the following parts:Gpu: sapphire ati 4870 Cpu :q6600Mother board: Gigabyte GA x48 (with upgrade to crossfire in mind)Ram: 2x2 g.skill 800Mhz Cpu fan:Arctic cooler Freezer 7 pro Case: Antec 900 Hard disk: Western Digital 500gbPsu:Thermaltake 700 (with modular cabling) total :1165 $I hope that this might help younote:I am sure 100% that all of these components are compatable,however,I can decrease the total amount of paid money by choosing other items (but might not be as future proof)[/QUOTE] Looks good. TC, just make sure you get a Thermaltake TOUGHPOWER. If it's not Toughpower, then pass on Thermaltake and go for Corsair. If you hate messy cables, get a modular Corsair.
[QUOTE=''Games_pro''] I recommend the following parts:Gpu: sapphire ati 4870 Cpu :q6600Mother board: Gigabyte GA x48 (with upgrade to crossfire in mind)Ram: 2x2 g.skill 800Mhz Cpu fan:Arctic cooler Freezer 7 pro Case: Antec 900 Hard disk: Western Digital 500gbPsu:Thermaltake 700 (with modular cabling) total :1165 $I hope that this might help younote:I am sure 100% that all of these components are compatable,however,I can decrease the total amount of paid money by choosing other items (but might not be as future proof)[/QUOTE] Wow thank you so much! This looks like a great PC. I'm liking the price and everything! This looks awesome and I think I will get this. :D Thanks again!
Yeah, it's a great PC. You'll be maxing every game, except Crysis unless you overclock. Have fun. G.skill Ram and Thermaltake's modular cabling is a nice touch. ;)
:) Ah, one more question, what about the CD drive to play games? Is there a certain type I would need or would any one work?
[QUOTE=''death919'']:) Ah, one more question, what about the CD drive to play games? Is there a certain type I would need or would any one work?[/QUOTE]here it is:Asus cd/dvd burner what about the monitor ,do you have one ?natural make up
Quad Core CPU
4 GB RAM
A really good video card (Recommendations??? :D)
Harddrive size doesn't really matter, maybe 300GB or whateverThe amount I wanna spend is around $1000 (not including tax), I can be flexible if it means big performance upgrade (like $1250 or even higher), but yeah. :D Just looking to build a good PC that will be able to play alot of the latest games and future games at high settings. I don't even know what to look for in a motherboard or power supply or anything like that though, so that's why I need help. So can you recommend me all of the parts and stuff that I would need to build my own?Thanks! :DBuilding a PC - can you help me pick out parts?
Because you're not from canada, i suggest ncix.com.
Good service, cheap shipping.
Building a PC - can you help me pick out parts?
Get either the 4850 or 4870, they are by far the best value for money right now!
I recommend the following parts:Gpu: sapphire ati 4870 Cpu :q6600Mother board: Gigabyte GA x48 (with upgrade to crossfire in mind)Ram: 2x2 g.skill 800Mhz Cpu fan:Arctic cooler Freezer 7 pro Case: Antec 900 Hard disk: Western Digital 500gbPsu:Thermaltake 700 (with modular cabling) total :1165 $I hope that this might help younote:I am sure 100% that all of these components are compatable,however,I can decrease the total amount of paid money by choosing other items (but might not be as future proof)
[QUOTE=''Games_pro''] I recommend the following parts:Gpu: sapphire ati 4870 Cpu :q6600Mother board: Gigabyte GA x48 (with upgrade to crossfire in mind)Ram: 2x2 g.skill 800Mhz Cpu fan:Arctic cooler Freezer 7 pro Case: Antec 900 Hard disk: Western Digital 500gbPsu:Thermaltake 700 (with modular cabling) total :1165 $I hope that this might help younote:I am sure 100% that all of these components are compatable,however,I can decrease the total amount of paid money by choosing other items (but might not be as future proof)[/QUOTE] Looks good. TC, just make sure you get a Thermaltake TOUGHPOWER. If it's not Toughpower, then pass on Thermaltake and go for Corsair. If you hate messy cables, get a modular Corsair.
[QUOTE=''Games_pro''] I recommend the following parts:Gpu: sapphire ati 4870 Cpu :q6600Mother board: Gigabyte GA x48 (with upgrade to crossfire in mind)Ram: 2x2 g.skill 800Mhz Cpu fan:Arctic cooler Freezer 7 pro Case: Antec 900 Hard disk: Western Digital 500gbPsu:Thermaltake 700 (with modular cabling) total :1165 $I hope that this might help younote:I am sure 100% that all of these components are compatable,however,I can decrease the total amount of paid money by choosing other items (but might not be as future proof)[/QUOTE] Wow thank you so much! This looks like a great PC. I'm liking the price and everything! This looks awesome and I think I will get this. :D Thanks again!
Yeah, it's a great PC. You'll be maxing every game, except Crysis unless you overclock. Have fun. G.skill Ram and Thermaltake's modular cabling is a nice touch. ;)
:) Ah, one more question, what about the CD drive to play games? Is there a certain type I would need or would any one work?
[QUOTE=''death919'']:) Ah, one more question, what about the CD drive to play games? Is there a certain type I would need or would any one work?[/QUOTE]here it is:Asus cd/dvd burner what about the monitor ,do you have one ?
Does ATI video cards work better on AMD cpu's ?
AND does Nvidia cards are more for Intel CPu's ?ATI and AMD are now together, i got a new pc which has an AMD quad core cpu with integrated ATI hd 3200. It works fine , but if i get a nvidia card , is it going to give me more performance than an ATI card??? Does ATI video cards work better on AMD cpu's ?
no...Does ATI video cards work better on AMD cpu's ?
No, not really. Get an Intel CPU because they perform better in nearly every price catagory!
The only advantage would be AMD overdrive and one stop shopping for support/drivers... but if those are your reason for going pure AMD then your an idiot.I have a Nvidia GFX card and a AMD cpu.. Only because at the time they price/performance for the two items was the greatest for my budget.
AMD is now owned by ATI right so I guess you could get extra performance :S no proof though.
[QUOTE=''Elite-Realist'']AMD is now owned by ATI right so I guess you could get extra performance :S no proof though.[/QUOTE]Do you mean AMD SPYDER? I heard if you use AMD CPU, new AMD based chipset motherboard, and ATi VGA Card you can get 5-10% performance boost... but I don't find any relevan article or proof... so better dig the info...
[QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''Elite-Realist'']AMD is now owned by ATI right so I guess you could get extra performance :S no proof though.[/QUOTE]Do you mean AMD SPYDER? I heard if you use AMD CPU, new AMD based chipset motherboard, and ATi VGA Card you can get 5-10% performance boost... but I don't find any relevan article or proof... so better dig the info... [/QUOTE]Absolute rubbish.The performance deficit from choosing AMD's Phenom over Intel's Core 2 Quad wouldn't be made up, even if their was some form of performance improvement by going with the Spider (where do they get these stupid names from?) platform.
[QUOTE=''Wesker776''][QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''Elite-Realist'']AMD is now owned by ATI right so I guess you could get extra performance :S no proof though.[/QUOTE]Do you mean AMD SPYDER? I heard if you use AMD CPU, new AMD based chipset motherboard, and ATi VGA Card you can get 5-10% performance boost... but I don't find any relevan article or proof... so better dig the info... [/QUOTE]Absolute rubbish.The performance deficit from choosing AMD's Phenom over Intel's Core 2 Quad wouldn't be made up, even if their was some form of performance improvement by going with the Spider (where do they get these stupid names from?) platform.[/QUOTE]You can read this...http://www.amd.com/us-en/0,,3715_15341,00.html
no...Does ATI video cards work better on AMD cpu's ?
No, not really. Get an Intel CPU because they perform better in nearly every price catagory!
The only advantage would be AMD overdrive and one stop shopping for support/drivers... but if those are your reason for going pure AMD then your an idiot.I have a Nvidia GFX card and a AMD cpu.. Only because at the time they price/performance for the two items was the greatest for my budget.
AMD is now owned by ATI right so I guess you could get extra performance :S no proof though.
[QUOTE=''Elite-Realist'']AMD is now owned by ATI right so I guess you could get extra performance :S no proof though.[/QUOTE]Do you mean AMD SPYDER? I heard if you use AMD CPU, new AMD based chipset motherboard, and ATi VGA Card you can get 5-10% performance boost... but I don't find any relevan article or proof... so better dig the info...
[QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''Elite-Realist'']AMD is now owned by ATI right so I guess you could get extra performance :S no proof though.[/QUOTE]Do you mean AMD SPYDER? I heard if you use AMD CPU, new AMD based chipset motherboard, and ATi VGA Card you can get 5-10% performance boost... but I don't find any relevan article or proof... so better dig the info... [/QUOTE]Absolute rubbish.The performance deficit from choosing AMD's Phenom over Intel's Core 2 Quad wouldn't be made up, even if their was some form of performance improvement by going with the Spider (where do they get these stupid names from?) platform.
[QUOTE=''Wesker776''][QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''Elite-Realist'']AMD is now owned by ATI right so I guess you could get extra performance :S no proof though.[/QUOTE]Do you mean AMD SPYDER? I heard if you use AMD CPU, new AMD based chipset motherboard, and ATi VGA Card you can get 5-10% performance boost... but I don't find any relevan article or proof... so better dig the info... [/QUOTE]Absolute rubbish.The performance deficit from choosing AMD's Phenom over Intel's Core 2 Quad wouldn't be made up, even if their was some form of performance improvement by going with the Spider (where do they get these stupid names from?) platform.[/QUOTE]You can read this...http://www.amd.com/us-en/0,,3715_15341,00.html
Need major help!
Not me in particular, but my friend...the story is this he usd to get 4's and 5's in the Windows Experience Index in Vista, thne he suddenly dropped to 2's and 3's and his Futuremark has dropped by almost 3000! Anybody shed any light on this? Its driving me crazy?!Need major help!
Can you post his computer specs? Does he clean and defrag his pc or any maintance plus background task could affect all these.Need major help!
We did a clean vista install last night, he boots up today and his cpu has gone from 2.2ghz down to 632mhz so we loaded fail safe defaults in the bios and thats back to 2.2ghz but all of his vista scores have suddenly dropped and its gone to shat from there.
[QUOTE=''jmnderson69'']We did a clean vista install last night, he boots up today and his cpu has gone from 2.2ghz down to 632mhz so we loaded fail safe defaults in the bios and thats back to 2.2ghz but all of his vista scores have suddenly dropped and its gone to shat from there.[/QUOTE]Go to Windows Experience Index in Vista and rescan your hardware for the score...
Done it twice...i even deleted the .xml files to make sure it wasnt a glitch or a bug. Futuremark shows an actual performance drop of almost 3000 marks out of nowhere which is puzzling me.
Can you post his computer specs? Does he clean and defrag his pc or any maintance plus background task could affect all these.Need major help!
We did a clean vista install last night, he boots up today and his cpu has gone from 2.2ghz down to 632mhz so we loaded fail safe defaults in the bios and thats back to 2.2ghz but all of his vista scores have suddenly dropped and its gone to shat from there.
[QUOTE=''jmnderson69'']We did a clean vista install last night, he boots up today and his cpu has gone from 2.2ghz down to 632mhz so we loaded fail safe defaults in the bios and thats back to 2.2ghz but all of his vista scores have suddenly dropped and its gone to shat from there.[/QUOTE]Go to Windows Experience Index in Vista and rescan your hardware for the score...
Done it twice...i even deleted the .xml files to make sure it wasnt a glitch or a bug. Futuremark shows an actual performance drop of almost 3000 marks out of nowhere which is puzzling me.
need help! 790i ultra vs. x48 chipsets
Hi guys ! I'm in a big dilema , I will buy a gpu gtx280 but I can't decide between the 2 Asus motherboards cause I'm not sure what I gain and what I lose between the 2 chipsets, from your opinion and experience which one is performing better with or without O.C. ??? I was thinking about x48 with crossfire HD4850 but I heard about the heat and drivers issue , you might say that gtx280 is expensive but its performance is the top and has 1GB vram , so I may sli in future but if x48 is better I'll go with it .These 2 motherboards I'm interested :Asus STRIKER II EXTREME(790i ultra sli)Asus P5E3 premium Wi Fi(x48)Thank you guys!!!need help! 790i ultra vs. x48 chipsets
The X48 overclocks roughly the same, consumes less power and is more stable than the 790i, especially with the latter for overclocking.The past few Nvidia chipsets for Intel have suffered from some data corruption issues, with and without overclocking.As for GPU's, just wait for the HD4870 X2. It should be launching mid August and at a price point of ~$550.need help! 790i ultra vs. x48 chipsets
If you don't care about budget... Choose Asus STRIKER II EXTREME(790i ultra sli)... You will get 10-20% boost in SLI performance and its support three way SLI (3x GTX 280)... Altough there is no such game fully support three way SLI nowadays, maybe in the future though...
[QUOTE=''Aldouz'']If you don't care about budget... Choose Asus STRIKER II EXTREME(790i ultra sli)... You will get 10-20% boost in SLI performance and its support three way SLI (3x GTX 280)... Altough there is no such game fully support three way SLI nowadays, maybe in the future though...[/QUOTE]1. There is no 10-20% performance boost.
2. Unless he has 30'' monitor or a lack of brain cells, there's no need for 3 x GTX 280's.
3. Do you know how SLI/CrossFire works?
If you are going to buy an nvidia card then stick to the nforce chipsets so that you can sli in the future If you needed to.but if you are buying the ati card (4870 or 4870x2) then buy the the x48,but are you sure you want the ddr3? its not worth it
1. yes I know how sli/crossfire works2. as I said I may go sli in future if I see one card can't handle demanding games at 1600x resolution OR I may buy other best GPU at that time IF I KNOW that my motherboard x48 is better than 790i ultra sli, but if their performance is similar and no problems I will go 790i sli and later get another gtx280.so which one is better chipsets??!!
The X48 overclocks roughly the same, consumes less power and is more stable than the 790i, especially with the latter for overclocking.The past few Nvidia chipsets for Intel have suffered from some data corruption issues, with and without overclocking.As for GPU's, just wait for the HD4870 X2. It should be launching mid August and at a price point of ~$550.need help! 790i ultra vs. x48 chipsets
If you don't care about budget... Choose Asus STRIKER II EXTREME(790i ultra sli)... You will get 10-20% boost in SLI performance and its support three way SLI (3x GTX 280)... Altough there is no such game fully support three way SLI nowadays, maybe in the future though...
[QUOTE=''Aldouz'']If you don't care about budget... Choose Asus STRIKER II EXTREME(790i ultra sli)... You will get 10-20% boost in SLI performance and its support three way SLI (3x GTX 280)... Altough there is no such game fully support three way SLI nowadays, maybe in the future though...[/QUOTE]1. There is no 10-20% performance boost.
2. Unless he has 30'' monitor or a lack of brain cells, there's no need for 3 x GTX 280's.
3. Do you know how SLI/CrossFire works?
If you are going to buy an nvidia card then stick to the nforce chipsets so that you can sli in the future If you needed to.but if you are buying the ati card (4870 or 4870x2) then buy the the x48,but are you sure you want the ddr3? its not worth it
1. yes I know how sli/crossfire works2. as I said I may go sli in future if I see one card can't handle demanding games at 1600x resolution OR I may buy other best GPU at that time IF I KNOW that my motherboard x48 is better than 790i ultra sli, but if their performance is similar and no problems I will go 790i sli and later get another gtx280.so which one is better chipsets??!!
how far can i overclock this
I have a 790i ultra sli with an e8500 cpu at 3.16 standard and dual channel low frequency ddr3 patriot ram,( doesnt that sound all cool and **** anyway i've managed to get to about 3.5 but how far do oyu all think i should go with it?how far can i overclock this
Try to overclock it little by little, nobody can tell you what kind of overclock you'll get because all chips are different. You could probably get it higher, depends on your cooler and the temperatures in your house.how far can i overclock this
It depends on your cpu cooler and the max CPU temp under high loads. With any decent aftermarket cpu cooler you should get at least 700+ mhz on the E8500. There are plenty of overclocking guids on the web they can be very helpful on doing it right and not frying components.
Try to overclock it little by little, nobody can tell you what kind of overclock you'll get because all chips are different. You could probably get it higher, depends on your cooler and the temperatures in your house.how far can i overclock this
It depends on your cpu cooler and the max CPU temp under high loads. With any decent aftermarket cpu cooler you should get at least 700+ mhz on the E8500. There are plenty of overclocking guids on the web they can be very helpful on doing it right and not frying components.
New pc build suggestions
ok, now following the other thread I guess I have no idea about pc's these days, So can you guys suggest some pc setups around my budget.I've about 4000-5000 to spend, but saving on that couldn't hurt. I want a few things out of this pc such as tri-sli(280gtx's if possible) and a 24'' monitor something with 2ms response, preferably intel also.With the suggestions I'll need it put together from where I buy it, so maybe an online store or something?Thanks for the help guys, cheers MattNew pc build suggestions
ok, first, send me a thousand or so of that. second, if you're really set on the absolute most powerful graphics possible, get a bigger monitor. like, 30''. third. quadfire will be cheaper than tri-sli, go with 2 4850x2's. the numbers aren't out yet, but I bet that ATI's card will win. D, will you be multi-tasking? if you plan on video editing or other crazy stuff, go with a quad core, but if you just wanna milk the everliving crap out of crysis and make it weep, use a higher clocked dual core instead. lastly, newegg.com. build it yourself, get an even better system for your money. if that is out of the question for you, (come on, it's like legos now) I've heard good things about avadirect.I hope the hunt works out for you and you're satisfied with what you end up with.New pc build suggestions
Build this
[QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']Build this[/QUOTE] link doesn't work mate. So ATI's 4840x2 will be better than the 280gtx's? I wont really be multitasking, but dont know how to overclock.
don't know how to overclock and don't multitask, you can get a dual core with higer clock speeds cheaper than lower clocked quad cores, so that seems like the route you want to take.
[QUOTE=''MaTTsTone_oz''][QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']Build this[/QUOTE] link doesn't work mate.So ATI's 4840x2 will be better than the 280gtx's? I wont really be multitasking, but dont know how to overclock.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that three GTX 280's will be better than two 4870X2s, albeit they are both overkill.
www.newegg.com (www.tigerdirect.com and www.ncix.com for canadians). What are u using your computer for? In most cases, thats way too much money. it would be considered a waste unless you use your computer for something special and need odd parts or something. you have to realize no matter what you get now, a few months from now more advanced parts will be out and your current build will be cheaper. you would get more out of buying a computer every half of a year with that supply of money than just splurging on one...tho i advise you just get one for a while. even so, a really good one now wouldnt be much over 1000.
First of all, put away $3500. You can build a monster gaming PC with just $1500, assuming you already have a monitor. If you do, then you're set to go. If you dont have a monitor, look to spend around $1700-2000. Put away the rest and stop flashing that money. :P
[QUOTE=''bungie93''][QUOTE=''MaTTsTone_oz''] [QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']Build this[/QUOTE] link doesn't work mate. So ATI's 4840x2 will be better than the 280gtx's? I wont really be multitasking, but dont know how to overclock.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that three GTX 280's will be better than two 4870X2s, albeit they are both overkill.[/QUOTE] In Crysis, maybe, but I doubt that with other games. I think HD4870x2 Quadfire will win it.
m in australia, so comp parts arn't as cheap as you guys. I need to spend more over here. At the moment only have a 19'' crt, so want a 24''ish lcd.
alright it took some work but I found a site in Australia where you can buy your computer parts in. Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6 Motherboard
$359.00 $359.00 Antec Twelve Hundred Case
$241.00 $241.00 Intel Core2 Duo E8600
$319.00 $319.00 Scythe Blue LED 120mm Fan with VR
$29.95 $29.95 Hitachi CinemaStar P7K500 500GB
$116.00 $116.00 Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard
$89.00 $89.00 LG 24'' Wide LCD Monitor L246WH-BN
$549.00 $549.00 Corsair TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF 4GB (2x2GB)
$195.00 $195.00 Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
$88.00 $88.00 Gigabyte GA-X48-DS5 Motherboard
$329.00 $329.00 Liteon Blu-Ray Reader SATA Black
$165.00 $165.00 Sony AD-7200A DVD盧W/DL 20x6x20x8 IDE OEM
$36.00 $36.00 Corsair TX-750 750W Power Supply
$189.00 $189.00 Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer
$161.70 $161.70 Logitech Z-5500D THX Digital Speaker System
$339.00 $339.00
Sub-Total: $3,205.65 Now I didn't include the graphics cards because the ati 4870 X2 is coming out in mid august-early september so it would be better to wait for them. Now a 4870 X2 is basically just two 4870's on one die. Now if you run 4870 X2 in crossfire you get quadfire(4 gpu's). Its a much better deal than tri SLI and I believe it should cost about $1000 in Australia(guessing), so I definetly recommend going with that. Also since you have a monitor that can display HD resolutions(1920x1280) I included a blue-ray reader and also some top of the line speakers/soundcard. OH and the extra fan is for your case so you cant put it on the side to cool your GPU.Hope this has been of some help, have fun with your computer and remember to post pics for us when you build it.
ok, first, send me a thousand or so of that. second, if you're really set on the absolute most powerful graphics possible, get a bigger monitor. like, 30''. third. quadfire will be cheaper than tri-sli, go with 2 4850x2's. the numbers aren't out yet, but I bet that ATI's card will win. D, will you be multi-tasking? if you plan on video editing or other crazy stuff, go with a quad core, but if you just wanna milk the everliving crap out of crysis and make it weep, use a higher clocked dual core instead. lastly, newegg.com. build it yourself, get an even better system for your money. if that is out of the question for you, (come on, it's like legos now) I've heard good things about avadirect.I hope the hunt works out for you and you're satisfied with what you end up with.New pc build suggestions
Build this
[QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']Build this[/QUOTE] link doesn't work mate. So ATI's 4840x2 will be better than the 280gtx's? I wont really be multitasking, but dont know how to overclock.
don't know how to overclock and don't multitask, you can get a dual core with higer clock speeds cheaper than lower clocked quad cores, so that seems like the route you want to take.
[QUOTE=''MaTTsTone_oz''][QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']Build this[/QUOTE] link doesn't work mate.So ATI's 4840x2 will be better than the 280gtx's? I wont really be multitasking, but dont know how to overclock.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that three GTX 280's will be better than two 4870X2s, albeit they are both overkill.
www.newegg.com (www.tigerdirect.com and www.ncix.com for canadians). What are u using your computer for? In most cases, thats way too much money. it would be considered a waste unless you use your computer for something special and need odd parts or something. you have to realize no matter what you get now, a few months from now more advanced parts will be out and your current build will be cheaper. you would get more out of buying a computer every half of a year with that supply of money than just splurging on one...tho i advise you just get one for a while. even so, a really good one now wouldnt be much over 1000.
First of all, put away $3500. You can build a monster gaming PC with just $1500, assuming you already have a monitor. If you do, then you're set to go. If you dont have a monitor, look to spend around $1700-2000. Put away the rest and stop flashing that money. :P
[QUOTE=''bungie93''][QUOTE=''MaTTsTone_oz''] [QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']Build this[/QUOTE] link doesn't work mate. So ATI's 4840x2 will be better than the 280gtx's? I wont really be multitasking, but dont know how to overclock.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that three GTX 280's will be better than two 4870X2s, albeit they are both overkill.[/QUOTE] In Crysis, maybe, but I doubt that with other games. I think HD4870x2 Quadfire will win it.
m in australia, so comp parts arn't as cheap as you guys. I need to spend more over here. At the moment only have a 19'' crt, so want a 24''ish lcd.
alright it took some work but I found a site in Australia where you can buy your computer parts in. Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6 Motherboard
$359.00 $359.00 Antec Twelve Hundred Case
$241.00 $241.00 Intel Core2 Duo E8600
$319.00 $319.00 Scythe Blue LED 120mm Fan with VR
$29.95 $29.95 Hitachi CinemaStar P7K500 500GB
$116.00 $116.00 Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard
$89.00 $89.00 LG 24'' Wide LCD Monitor L246WH-BN
$549.00 $549.00 Corsair TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF 4GB (2x2GB)
$195.00 $195.00 Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
$88.00 $88.00 Gigabyte GA-X48-DS5 Motherboard
$329.00 $329.00 Liteon Blu-Ray Reader SATA Black
$165.00 $165.00 Sony AD-7200A DVD盧W/DL 20x6x20x8 IDE OEM
$36.00 $36.00 Corsair TX-750 750W Power Supply
$189.00 $189.00 Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer
$161.70 $161.70 Logitech Z-5500D THX Digital Speaker System
$339.00 $339.00
Sub-Total: $3,205.65 Now I didn't include the graphics cards because the ati 4870 X2 is coming out in mid august-early september so it would be better to wait for them. Now a 4870 X2 is basically just two 4870's on one die. Now if you run 4870 X2 in crossfire you get quadfire(4 gpu's). Its a much better deal than tri SLI and I believe it should cost about $1000 in Australia(guessing), so I definetly recommend going with that. Also since you have a monitor that can display HD resolutions(1920x1280) I included a blue-ray reader and also some top of the line speakers/soundcard. OH and the extra fan is for your case so you cant put it on the side to cool your GPU.Hope this has been of some help, have fun with your computer and remember to post pics for us when you build it.
Antec 900 fan?
Hey guys. So I woke up this morning, turned on my PC, and noticed that the huge fan on the top of the Antec 900 (80 MM i think? I dunno) would spin really slow, and then stop - spin backwards for half a second, and then spin forwards again. It's just been doing this since I turned it on.Anyone else ever had this problem? I know the 900 is a popular case.Antec 900 fan?
It's 200mm, 80mm is pretty small. It's possible that the fan connector might be loose, I'd check that first. If not...I'm not sure if it's easy to change or not.natural make up
It's 200mm, 80mm is pretty small. It's possible that the fan connector might be loose, I'd check that first. If not...I'm not sure if it's easy to change or not.
slying 8800 GT
I am still debating on either slying 2 8800 GT's or buying a gtx 280. What do you guys think?slying 8800 GT
gtx 280 is far more better,slying 8800gt can't beat it at high resolution,what resolution will you game at ?slying 8800 GT
GTX 280 has better performance and lower power consumption compare to 8800GT SLI...But it will cost you more than $300 to get GTX280, while you can get 2x8800GT SLI less than $300...
well I want to play at a high resolution. I don't mind paying more then 300$. I already have a 8800 GT but I want to play at higher resolutions and crap like 1900 by 1200 or something to those so gtx 280 it is thanks :).
[QUOTE=''blade55555'']well I want to play at a high resolution. I don't mind paying more then 300$. I already have a 8800 GT but I want to play at higher resolutions and crap like 1900 by 1200 or something to those so gtx 280 it is thanks :).[/QUOTE]If your Mobo support SLI and your PSU is 600watt or higher... buying another 8800GT is definitely the best economically...But GTX280 perform better than 8800GT whatever the resolution is...
[QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''blade55555'']well I want to play at a high resolution. I don't mind paying more then 300$. I already have a 8800 GT but I want to play at higher resolutions and crap like 1900 by 1200 or something to those so gtx 280 it is thanks :).[/QUOTE]But GTX280 perform better than 8800GT whatever the resolution is...[/QUOTE]I mean GTX280 perform better than 8800GT SLI...
neither...get a 4850 or 4870 radeon. sli is a waste.
ATI is a waste as i'v said before I refuse to buy from them as they gave me constant problems with their graphics cards.
[QUOTE=''blade55555'']ATI is a waste as i'v said before I refuse to buy from them as they gave me constant problems with their graphics cards.[/QUOTE] like? sounds like a personal problem or you're like an nvidia fanboy for life or something ha.
[QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''blade55555'']well I want to play at a high resolution. I don't mind paying more then 300$. I already have a 8800 GT but I want to play at higher resolutions and crap like 1900 by 1200 or something to those so gtx 280 it is thanks :).[/QUOTE]But GTX280 perform better than 8800GT whatever the resolution is...[/QUOTE]I mean GTX280 perform better than 8800GT SLI...[/QUOTE]Not entirely true
[QUOTE=''machine_B''][QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''blade55555'']well I want to play at a high resolution. I don't mind paying more then 300$. I already have a 8800 GT but I want to play at higher resolutions and crap like 1900 by 1200 or something to those so gtx 280 it is thanks :).[/QUOTE]But GTX280 perform better than 8800GT whatever the resolution is...[/QUOTE]I mean GTX280 perform better than 8800GT SLI...[/QUOTE]Not entirely true [/QUOTE] wow those 8800GT's can still fare pretty well :O
Befor upgrading ask yourself this...What size in my monitor... if your anwser is 22'' or smaller then... upgrading is a complete a total waste.. You won't see any games come out in the next year that will make the upgrade worth it.
[QUOTE=''g0ldenboy''][QUOTE=''blade55555'']ATI is a waste as i'v said before I refuse to buy from them as they gave me constant problems with their graphics cards.[/QUOTE] like? sounds like a personal problem or you're like an nvidia fanboy for life or something ha. [/QUOTE]I'll tell you. From 3 cards i'v bought from them. All of them had problems in 1 way or another. My games would never run the way the card was supposed to run them. I buy nvidia and they work for me.I bet your an ati fanboy for life :).
well i'm getting a 24 inch monitor this month :D.
Dont get caught up in the hype, GTX280, blah blah, and blah.. Remember, the 9800GX2 is essentially two 8800GTs in one card. So an 8800GT in SLi is the way to go economically. Save a lot of money and dont have to feel it in the pockets. If you have a monster rig, then get GTX280 so you can SLi that later on, or 3-way SLi. Care to post your specs first?
[QUOTE=''blade55555''][QUOTE=''g0ldenboy''][QUOTE=''blade55555'']ATI is a waste as i'v said before I refuse to buy from them as they gave me constant problems with their graphics cards.[/QUOTE] like? sounds like a personal problem or you're like an nvidia fanboy for life or something ha. [/QUOTE]I'll tell you. From 3 cards i'v bought from them. All of them had problems in 1 way or another. My games would never run the way the card was supposed to run them. I buy nvidia and they work for me.I bet your an ati fanboy for life :). [/QUOTE] actually no im not a fanboy. my current desktop has an 8800gt on it. i just dont want you to give someone false information on the best card out there currently because you have a grudge against the whole company.
[QUOTE=''blade55555'']I'll tell you. From 3 cards i'v bought from them. All of them had problems in 1 way or another. My games would never run the way the card was supposed to run them. I buy nvidia and they work for me.[/QUOTE] Sounds like the problem was BKAC, or you just had a lot of bad luck. I can understand the latter problem, but it's been my experience that people who prefer one company over another despite overwhelming evidence to their ignorance. ATI has worked fine for millions of people, as has Nvidia. I've had problems on both sides of the fence quite a few times. My friends EVGA 7300GT recently had its fan seize up, and it blew four capacitors. Another friend had his X800GTO apparently running well over 100c for months, and the card finally bricked. I've had issues with both Nvidia and ATI board partners regarding warranty issues, and I've had equally annoying drivers issues with both companies. If I gave up on one or the other after a time or two, that would be foolish. Giving up on a particular board partner for selling you crap is one thing, but not the whole company.
gtx 280 is far more better,slying 8800gt can't beat it at high resolution,what resolution will you game at ?slying 8800 GT
GTX 280 has better performance and lower power consumption compare to 8800GT SLI...But it will cost you more than $300 to get GTX280, while you can get 2x8800GT SLI less than $300...
well I want to play at a high resolution. I don't mind paying more then 300$. I already have a 8800 GT but I want to play at higher resolutions and crap like 1900 by 1200 or something to those so gtx 280 it is thanks :).
[QUOTE=''blade55555'']well I want to play at a high resolution. I don't mind paying more then 300$. I already have a 8800 GT but I want to play at higher resolutions and crap like 1900 by 1200 or something to those so gtx 280 it is thanks :).[/QUOTE]If your Mobo support SLI and your PSU is 600watt or higher... buying another 8800GT is definitely the best economically...But GTX280 perform better than 8800GT whatever the resolution is...
[QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''blade55555'']well I want to play at a high resolution. I don't mind paying more then 300$. I already have a 8800 GT but I want to play at higher resolutions and crap like 1900 by 1200 or something to those so gtx 280 it is thanks :).[/QUOTE]But GTX280 perform better than 8800GT whatever the resolution is...[/QUOTE]I mean GTX280 perform better than 8800GT SLI...
neither...get a 4850 or 4870 radeon. sli is a waste.
ATI is a waste as i'v said before I refuse to buy from them as they gave me constant problems with their graphics cards.
[QUOTE=''blade55555'']ATI is a waste as i'v said before I refuse to buy from them as they gave me constant problems with their graphics cards.[/QUOTE] like? sounds like a personal problem or you're like an nvidia fanboy for life or something ha.
[QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''blade55555'']well I want to play at a high resolution. I don't mind paying more then 300$. I already have a 8800 GT but I want to play at higher resolutions and crap like 1900 by 1200 or something to those so gtx 280 it is thanks :).[/QUOTE]But GTX280 perform better than 8800GT whatever the resolution is...[/QUOTE]I mean GTX280 perform better than 8800GT SLI...[/QUOTE]Not entirely true
[QUOTE=''machine_B''][QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''Aldouz''][QUOTE=''blade55555'']well I want to play at a high resolution. I don't mind paying more then 300$. I already have a 8800 GT but I want to play at higher resolutions and crap like 1900 by 1200 or something to those so gtx 280 it is thanks :).[/QUOTE]But GTX280 perform better than 8800GT whatever the resolution is...[/QUOTE]I mean GTX280 perform better than 8800GT SLI...[/QUOTE]Not entirely true [/QUOTE] wow those 8800GT's can still fare pretty well :O
Befor upgrading ask yourself this...What size in my monitor... if your anwser is 22'' or smaller then... upgrading is a complete a total waste.. You won't see any games come out in the next year that will make the upgrade worth it.
[QUOTE=''g0ldenboy''][QUOTE=''blade55555'']ATI is a waste as i'v said before I refuse to buy from them as they gave me constant problems with their graphics cards.[/QUOTE] like? sounds like a personal problem or you're like an nvidia fanboy for life or something ha. [/QUOTE]I'll tell you. From 3 cards i'v bought from them. All of them had problems in 1 way or another. My games would never run the way the card was supposed to run them. I buy nvidia and they work for me.I bet your an ati fanboy for life :).
well i'm getting a 24 inch monitor this month :D.
Dont get caught up in the hype, GTX280, blah blah, and blah.. Remember, the 9800GX2 is essentially two 8800GTs in one card. So an 8800GT in SLi is the way to go economically. Save a lot of money and dont have to feel it in the pockets. If you have a monster rig, then get GTX280 so you can SLi that later on, or 3-way SLi. Care to post your specs first?
[QUOTE=''blade55555''][QUOTE=''g0ldenboy''][QUOTE=''blade55555'']ATI is a waste as i'v said before I refuse to buy from them as they gave me constant problems with their graphics cards.[/QUOTE] like? sounds like a personal problem or you're like an nvidia fanboy for life or something ha. [/QUOTE]I'll tell you. From 3 cards i'v bought from them. All of them had problems in 1 way or another. My games would never run the way the card was supposed to run them. I buy nvidia and they work for me.I bet your an ati fanboy for life :). [/QUOTE] actually no im not a fanboy. my current desktop has an 8800gt on it. i just dont want you to give someone false information on the best card out there currently because you have a grudge against the whole company.
[QUOTE=''blade55555'']I'll tell you. From 3 cards i'v bought from them. All of them had problems in 1 way or another. My games would never run the way the card was supposed to run them. I buy nvidia and they work for me.[/QUOTE] Sounds like the problem was BKAC, or you just had a lot of bad luck. I can understand the latter problem, but it's been my experience that people who prefer one company over another despite overwhelming evidence to their ignorance. ATI has worked fine for millions of people, as has Nvidia. I've had problems on both sides of the fence quite a few times. My friends EVGA 7300GT recently had its fan seize up, and it blew four capacitors. Another friend had his X800GTO apparently running well over 100c for months, and the card finally bricked. I've had issues with both Nvidia and ATI board partners regarding warranty issues, and I've had equally annoying drivers issues with both companies. If I gave up on one or the other after a time or two, that would be foolish. Giving up on a particular board partner for selling you crap is one thing, but not the whole company.
Helpppp! :/
Im going to be buying one of these computers within the month. Which one should I buy?http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=6493574 - More powerful computer.http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=6622194 - Pretty good computer + 24'' monitor.Helpppp! :/
Look for a regular size ATX mobo, P31 chipset should be pretty cheap now, if not that one is ok i guess if it's cheaper. Go with the Centurion 5, 4GB, drop to down to the E7200 and stick with the 4870, you can go with the 550W regardless then save for a monitor. A 24'' is probably going to need dual GPUs to max out games @ 19*12.Helpppp! :/
[QUOTE=''X360PS3AMD05'']Look for a regular size ATX mobo, P31 chipset should be pretty cheap now, if not that one is ok i guess if it's cheaper. Go with the Centurion 5, 4GB, drop to down to the E7200 and stick with the 4870, you can go with the 550W regardless then save for a monitor. A 24'' is probably going to need dual GPUs to max out games @ 19*12.[/QUOTE]I dont care to much about maxxing out anything besides Source games, newer games I dont mind dropping settings.and I dont want to switch anything on either builds, thanks for the advice though! ^_^
Go with the second choice and save yourself some cash. There is really no reason to spend over $1000 on a gaming computer.
Anyone else? :?
I would go with the second build if all your interseted in is maxing source games, however its probably not a good idea to get a 24 inch monitor with that setup because your GPU wont be up to the task of displaying games at 1920x1280 res, at least for a prolonged period of time.
[QUOTE=''filmography'']I would go with the second build if all your interseted in is maxing source games, however its probably not a good idea to get a 24 inch monitor with that setup because your GPU wont be up to the task of displaying games at 1920x1280 res, at least for a prolonged period of time. [/QUOTE] What games wont HD 4870 run well on a 24''?:? It gets 30 flat with Crysis, I think the settings are high.http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content%26task=view%26id=192%26Itemid=1%26limit=1%26limitstart=6
30 FPS isn't exactly high, and for a resolution of 1920x1280 the HD 4850 wont be able to play that res for more than 1.5 years. It would be a better idea to just go with a smaller monitor like a 20-22 inch monitor with a res of 1680x1050, that way your rig will be able to play at that resolution for a longer period of time.
[QUOTE=''filmography'']30 FPS isn't exactly high, and for a resolution of 1920x1280 the HD 4850 wont be able to play that res for more than 1.5 years. It would be a better idea to just go with a smaller monitor like a 20-22 inch monitor with a res of 1680x1050, that way your rig will be able to play at that resolution for a longer period of time. [/QUOTE] I currently have a 19'' widescreen, and the jump from 19'' to 22 isnt very big. So I guess my best bet is just to get the first build.
Look for a regular size ATX mobo, P31 chipset should be pretty cheap now, if not that one is ok i guess if it's cheaper. Go with the Centurion 5, 4GB, drop to down to the E7200 and stick with the 4870, you can go with the 550W regardless then save for a monitor. A 24'' is probably going to need dual GPUs to max out games @ 19*12.Helpppp! :/
[QUOTE=''X360PS3AMD05'']Look for a regular size ATX mobo, P31 chipset should be pretty cheap now, if not that one is ok i guess if it's cheaper. Go with the Centurion 5, 4GB, drop to down to the E7200 and stick with the 4870, you can go with the 550W regardless then save for a monitor. A 24'' is probably going to need dual GPUs to max out games @ 19*12.[/QUOTE]I dont care to much about maxxing out anything besides Source games, newer games I dont mind dropping settings.and I dont want to switch anything on either builds, thanks for the advice though! ^_^
Go with the second choice and save yourself some cash. There is really no reason to spend over $1000 on a gaming computer.
Anyone else? :?
I would go with the second build if all your interseted in is maxing source games, however its probably not a good idea to get a 24 inch monitor with that setup because your GPU wont be up to the task of displaying games at 1920x1280 res, at least for a prolonged period of time.
[QUOTE=''filmography'']I would go with the second build if all your interseted in is maxing source games, however its probably not a good idea to get a 24 inch monitor with that setup because your GPU wont be up to the task of displaying games at 1920x1280 res, at least for a prolonged period of time. [/QUOTE] What games wont HD 4870 run well on a 24''?:? It gets 30 flat with Crysis, I think the settings are high.http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content%26task=view%26id=192%26Itemid=1%26limit=1%26limitstart=6
30 FPS isn't exactly high, and for a resolution of 1920x1280 the HD 4850 wont be able to play that res for more than 1.5 years. It would be a better idea to just go with a smaller monitor like a 20-22 inch monitor with a res of 1680x1050, that way your rig will be able to play at that resolution for a longer period of time.
[QUOTE=''filmography'']30 FPS isn't exactly high, and for a resolution of 1920x1280 the HD 4850 wont be able to play that res for more than 1.5 years. It would be a better idea to just go with a smaller monitor like a 20-22 inch monitor with a res of 1680x1050, that way your rig will be able to play at that resolution for a longer period of time. [/QUOTE] I currently have a 19'' widescreen, and the jump from 19'' to 22 isnt very big. So I guess my best bet is just to get the first build.
Quick Sli Question.
I have Gigabyte Geforce 8800GTS 512 bios = xxxxx.xxxx.xxxx5and a Evga Geforce 8800GTS 512 = xxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx6The question is will these two card SLI well together? At the moment they are both sli and am just not sure if its working. with 3d mark 06 17621 eventhough the bios are different.The evga is the master because i got it first. The two cards are both overclocked to the same speed hopefully. GPU = 702memory 1000Quick Sli Question.
anyone?Quick Sli Question.
A slight firmware difference like that wouldn't be enough to prevent SLi.
As long as it states SLi is enabled and you are using the appropriate bridge between the two, you're fine. Or if you must, I would suggest hitting up both cards' respective sites and getting their latest firmware, if there is any available.
Cheers man
You can run both the card in SLI just fine. However, the slowest card will act as the defualt speed for both cards. You should still be able to OC both of them, but they have to be the exact same speed to work. That is for now. When Nvidia ever decides to get off it's fat, lazy butt and let use mix both speeds and GPU's (which they have kept saying they will at some point as the SLI GPU's do support this feature), then this wont be an issue anymore. But yeah, just put both those GTS babies together and enable ''SLI'' in the Nvidia control panel, then reboot. Thats that.
cheers
i thought u needed exactly the same specs on both video cards .. and normally depending on the comany, the bandwith differs .. but thats just my opinion, i didnt read enough on SLI.
I thought for SLI to work, you need two of the same graphics cards.
[QUOTE=''Digital_DJ_00'']I thought for SLI to work, you need two of the same graphics cards. [/QUOTE] It doesnt have to be the exact same brand, but the specs have to be identical. That's what I was told..
yeah tough i head having the same brand make it maybe more stable or so or better perfromances by not even 1% lol as long it same card should work overclocked or not
well id say its working fine based on the 3dmark score, whats your processor?
[QUOTE=''Digital_DJ_00'']I thought for SLI to work, you need two of the same graphics cards. [/QUOTE]Initially it did need to be that way.
Then a few driver revisions later allowed for different brands to inter-mix.
Nowadays at least on the ATi side, you can intermix different cards of a given family e.g. a 2900xt and a 2900 pro. now ATi and NV are both trying to work a way of getting the CF/SLi to work with upcoming integrated GPU's, so that it'd make sense to include an integrated video chip in a high-end motherboard for example.
[QUOTE=''viper0982'']well id say its working fine based on the 3dmark score, whats your processor? [/QUOTE]I have E8400 that score was 3dmark05
what's your score for 3d mark 06 ?
anyone?Quick Sli Question.
A slight firmware difference like that wouldn't be enough to prevent SLi.
As long as it states SLi is enabled and you are using the appropriate bridge between the two, you're fine. Or if you must, I would suggest hitting up both cards' respective sites and getting their latest firmware, if there is any available.
Cheers man
You can run both the card in SLI just fine. However, the slowest card will act as the defualt speed for both cards. You should still be able to OC both of them, but they have to be the exact same speed to work. That is for now. When Nvidia ever decides to get off it's fat, lazy butt and let use mix both speeds and GPU's (which they have kept saying they will at some point as the SLI GPU's do support this feature), then this wont be an issue anymore. But yeah, just put both those GTS babies together and enable ''SLI'' in the Nvidia control panel, then reboot. Thats that.
cheers
i thought u needed exactly the same specs on both video cards .. and normally depending on the comany, the bandwith differs .. but thats just my opinion, i didnt read enough on SLI.
I thought for SLI to work, you need two of the same graphics cards.
[QUOTE=''Digital_DJ_00'']I thought for SLI to work, you need two of the same graphics cards. [/QUOTE] It doesnt have to be the exact same brand, but the specs have to be identical. That's what I was told..
yeah tough i head having the same brand make it maybe more stable or so or better perfromances by not even 1% lol as long it same card should work overclocked or not
well id say its working fine based on the 3dmark score, whats your processor?
[QUOTE=''Digital_DJ_00'']I thought for SLI to work, you need two of the same graphics cards. [/QUOTE]Initially it did need to be that way.
Then a few driver revisions later allowed for different brands to inter-mix.
Nowadays at least on the ATi side, you can intermix different cards of a given family e.g. a 2900xt and a 2900 pro. now ATi and NV are both trying to work a way of getting the CF/SLi to work with upcoming integrated GPU's, so that it'd make sense to include an integrated video chip in a high-end motherboard for example.
[QUOTE=''viper0982'']well id say its working fine based on the 3dmark score, whats your processor? [/QUOTE]I have E8400 that score was 3dmark05
what's your score for 3d mark 06 ?
cpu heat, fan, how?
i jsut bought an amd 6400 the fan it came with wont go in my dell dimension e521. so im using the hs the dell came with. but that doesnt have a fan it just has a hs that lays on top of it. the temps are around 43c on idle up to 49 on load. how can a make the fan go in. in the manual it shows a black squar mount for you to place it on. i dont have that.
will this laptop run AOC on middle or at a decent and enjoyable setting?
processor dual core 2.4ghzram 3gbvideo 8600M GT 256 mbOS: vista (the resolution would be 1440x900) EDITMedium.... my bad will this laptop run AOC on middle or at a decent and enjoyable setting?
middle or I say medium setting...will this laptop run AOC on middle or at a decent and enjoyable setting?
ya, itl run fine on medium
thx guys
That's almost my rig. I have a quad core 2.4 GHz, 4 GB Ram, and 256 MB 8600GT. But, I have 32 bit Vista so I only see 3.3 GB for my ram.
[QUOTE=''bedram793'']That's almost my rig. I have a quad core 2.4 GHz, 4 GB Ram, and 256 MB 8600GT. But, I have 32 bit Vista so I only see 3.3 GB for my ram. [/QUOTE]So what games are you playing or have you played on it? I am considering getting that system, but am trying to figure out what I could play on it first...you have got a laptop, right?
middle or I say medium setting...will this laptop run AOC on middle or at a decent and enjoyable setting?
ya, itl run fine on medium
thx guys
That's almost my rig. I have a quad core 2.4 GHz, 4 GB Ram, and 256 MB 8600GT. But, I have 32 bit Vista so I only see 3.3 GB for my ram.
[QUOTE=''bedram793'']That's almost my rig. I have a quad core 2.4 GHz, 4 GB Ram, and 256 MB 8600GT. But, I have 32 bit Vista so I only see 3.3 GB for my ram. [/QUOTE]So what games are you playing or have you played on it? I am considering getting that system, but am trying to figure out what I could play on it first...you have got a laptop, right?
08 Games (Warhead, Far Cry 2, Project Origin) - What PC specs will be needed?
What specs do you guys think will be needed to run these games well.... i wasnt sure if maybe you guys saw some requirements somewhere since i havent.... or maybe you just have a hunch let me know08 Games (Warhead, Far Cry 2, Project Origin) - What PC specs will be needed?
Add Stalker: Clear Sky to the list.08 Games (Warhead, Far Cry 2, Project Origin) - What PC specs will be needed?
like most recent games they will probably need a:decent dual-coregeforce 8800 or better2 gbs of ram or more
Core 2 Duo E6600+ (or OC'd lower cpus) 2gb ramgeforce 8800+ or HD 3870x2+12gb free HDD spacesomething like that ..
Nothing more than you would already need for Crysis, basically.
Those games will probably slip into the next year
[QUOTE=''Gog'']Those games will probably slip into the next year[/QUOTE] or not ?
e2180, X2 5400+ 9600gt, 8800gt, HD 38702gb ram
im really excited to see warhead because theyre going to optimize the crytek engine so much. hopefully the MP is good too. Project Origin looks crazy but do you guys think far cry 2 will be more taxing than the crysis engine?
[QUOTE=''h575309'']but do you guys think far cry 2 will be more taxing than the crysis engine?[/QUOTE] Doubt it they said PC version is not going to have anything special over the Console version, just a case very bad optimizing by Ubisoft is what I would assume seeing the history of Ubisoft's screw ups. Hopefully, the who cares approch of Ubi's optimizing has been fixed but I doubt it.
i think my rig (look at sig) can run them on near max settings, so u can go from there
Depends really on resolution and whether you want the settings cranked up with AA and AF
yea i was just kind of curious what people thought..... i do think project origin could possibly be a beast though.... we will see.... thats pretty lame the pc version of far cry 2 wont have anything over the console versions....what the eff is up with that
Just so you know. Crysis Warhead comes alot more optimized according to Crytek. Infact they have modes that you can chose. Such as Gamer Mode and then there is Enthusiast mode. These have to do with the level of detail in the games.
Far Cry 2 wont be that demanding, even the pre-alpha shown like a year ago was running on a beefed up Core 2 Duo 3Ghz and a 8800 GTS, as u know pre-alphas are not optimized at all, wich means the actual game wont be that hard to run. As for crysis warhead it sounds like it will be more opitmized and fear 2 (project origin), the graphics are not that much better then the first one.
[QUOTE=''9mmSpliff'']Just so you know. Crysis Warhead comes alot more optimized according to Crytek. Infact they have modes that you can chose. Such as Gamer Mode and then there is Enthusiast mode. These have to do with the level of detail in the games.[/QUOTE] I'm not getting my hopes up to much on this promised optimization. They said a lot of things about Crysis before it came out which ended up not being true.natural make up
Add Stalker: Clear Sky to the list.08 Games (Warhead, Far Cry 2, Project Origin) - What PC specs will be needed?
like most recent games they will probably need a:decent dual-coregeforce 8800 or better2 gbs of ram or more
Core 2 Duo E6600+ (or OC'd lower cpus) 2gb ramgeforce 8800+ or HD 3870x2+12gb free HDD spacesomething like that ..
Nothing more than you would already need for Crysis, basically.
Those games will probably slip into the next year
[QUOTE=''Gog'']Those games will probably slip into the next year[/QUOTE] or not ?
e2180, X2 5400+ 9600gt, 8800gt, HD 38702gb ram
im really excited to see warhead because theyre going to optimize the crytek engine so much. hopefully the MP is good too. Project Origin looks crazy but do you guys think far cry 2 will be more taxing than the crysis engine?
[QUOTE=''h575309'']but do you guys think far cry 2 will be more taxing than the crysis engine?[/QUOTE] Doubt it they said PC version is not going to have anything special over the Console version, just a case very bad optimizing by Ubisoft is what I would assume seeing the history of Ubisoft's screw ups. Hopefully, the who cares approch of Ubi's optimizing has been fixed but I doubt it.
i think my rig (look at sig) can run them on near max settings, so u can go from there
Depends really on resolution and whether you want the settings cranked up with AA and AF
yea i was just kind of curious what people thought..... i do think project origin could possibly be a beast though.... we will see.... thats pretty lame the pc version of far cry 2 wont have anything over the console versions....what the eff is up with that
Just so you know. Crysis Warhead comes alot more optimized according to Crytek. Infact they have modes that you can chose. Such as Gamer Mode and then there is Enthusiast mode. These have to do with the level of detail in the games.
Far Cry 2 wont be that demanding, even the pre-alpha shown like a year ago was running on a beefed up Core 2 Duo 3Ghz and a 8800 GTS, as u know pre-alphas are not optimized at all, wich means the actual game wont be that hard to run. As for crysis warhead it sounds like it will be more opitmized and fear 2 (project origin), the graphics are not that much better then the first one.
[QUOTE=''9mmSpliff'']Just so you know. Crysis Warhead comes alot more optimized according to Crytek. Infact they have modes that you can chose. Such as Gamer Mode and then there is Enthusiast mode. These have to do with the level of detail in the games.[/QUOTE] I'm not getting my hopes up to much on this promised optimization. They said a lot of things about Crysis before it came out which ended up not being true.
AMD Phenom for Video editing, Gaming and Photo editing
I currently have an AMD Athlon X2 5000+ on a AM2+ socket. I have noticed that in the last few months, I have been doing more video editing, photo editing and gaming and would like to ask a few questions about upgrading to a phenom CPU.1) Should I upgrade to phenom now or wait until the 45nm revisions come out awhen I upgrade my PC next year ?2) What performance gains would I get from using current phenoms over my 5000+ ?3) What is the best 'Bang for buck' phenom out there now ? I am putting off goin with intel as I am an AMD fan, who would like to help the company in their time of need ! Buying an Intel CPU would mean buying a new motherboard which I want to avoid !AMD Phenom for Video editing, Gaming and Photo editing
O would personally wait the the denebm more cache, runs cooler, higher clock maybe, but if not go for the 9850, u will see a big boost doing video editing and such using a quadAMD Phenom for Video editing, Gaming and Photo editing
1) wait for 45nm procesors reviision, or at least phenom x3 nice better than penom x4.2) and 3) The good : - phenom has quad core for x4 and triple core fior x3, more read faster. - has a combination with name amd spider : is a combination of amd phenom processor, amd 7-series chipset, and also ATI HD 3800 series. -more cheap than intel processor with same core (but intel not have triple core) - more virtualization tech, good for gaming and design graphics, and also editingThe badness : - With the same core , amd phenom do not haeve a good performance than Intel Q-series, because amd divide a way to works became 2, with another functuion each others. not same in intel which combine all the work in one way, more faster and efficient.oh, ur AMD fan like me? at now i still have AMD athlon X2 4600+ for gaming annd design work. i never want move to intel until now..
[QUOTE=''gumeh'']1) wait for 45nm procesors reviision, or at least phenom x3 nice better than penom x4.2) and 3) The good : - phenom has quad core for x4 and triple core fior x3, more read faster. - has a combination with name amd spider : is a combination of amd phenom processor, amd 7-series chipset, and also ATI HD 3800 series. -more cheap than intel processor with same core (but intel not have triple core) - more virtualization tech, good for gaming and design graphics, and also editingThe badness : - With the same core , amd phenom do not haeve a good performance than Intel Q-series, because amd divide a way to works became 2, with another functuion each others. not same in intel which combine all the work in one way, more faster and efficient.oh, ur AMD fan like me? at now i still have AMD athlon X2 4600+ for gaming annd design work. i never want move to intel until now.. [/QUOTE] Dude you have no idea about what you are talking about,,,the Q6600 is better than the Penomx4 in nearly every single way!
[/QUOTE] Dude you have no idea about what you are talking about,,,the Q6600 is better than the Penomx4 in nearly every single way! [/QUOTE] You miss read what he said, he said the phenoms do not hav same performance in comparison to clock (core), and + if the x4 9850 is as good as the q6600 wouldnt the x4 9950 be better than the q6600 ?
[QUOTE=''LikkleLee'']
[/QUOTE] Dude you have no idea about what you are talking about,,,the Q6600 is better than the Penomx4 in nearly every single way! [/QUOTE] You miss read what he said, he said the phenoms do not hav same performance in comparison to clock (core), and + if the x4 9850 is as good as the q6600 wouldnt the x4 9950 be better than the q6600 ? [/QUOTE] The Q6600 is cheaper, overclocks further and performs better if both are at same clock speeds!
O would personally wait the the denebm more cache, runs cooler, higher clock maybe, but if not go for the 9850, u will see a big boost doing video editing and such using a quadAMD Phenom for Video editing, Gaming and Photo editing
1) wait for 45nm procesors reviision, or at least phenom x3 nice better than penom x4.2) and 3) The good : - phenom has quad core for x4 and triple core fior x3, more read faster. - has a combination with name amd spider : is a combination of amd phenom processor, amd 7-series chipset, and also ATI HD 3800 series. -more cheap than intel processor with same core (but intel not have triple core) - more virtualization tech, good for gaming and design graphics, and also editingThe badness : - With the same core , amd phenom do not haeve a good performance than Intel Q-series, because amd divide a way to works became 2, with another functuion each others. not same in intel which combine all the work in one way, more faster and efficient.oh, ur AMD fan like me? at now i still have AMD athlon X2 4600+ for gaming annd design work. i never want move to intel until now..
[QUOTE=''gumeh'']1) wait for 45nm procesors reviision, or at least phenom x3 nice better than penom x4.2) and 3) The good : - phenom has quad core for x4 and triple core fior x3, more read faster. - has a combination with name amd spider : is a combination of amd phenom processor, amd 7-series chipset, and also ATI HD 3800 series. -more cheap than intel processor with same core (but intel not have triple core) - more virtualization tech, good for gaming and design graphics, and also editingThe badness : - With the same core , amd phenom do not haeve a good performance than Intel Q-series, because amd divide a way to works became 2, with another functuion each others. not same in intel which combine all the work in one way, more faster and efficient.oh, ur AMD fan like me? at now i still have AMD athlon X2 4600+ for gaming annd design work. i never want move to intel until now.. [/QUOTE] Dude you have no idea about what you are talking about,,,the Q6600 is better than the Penomx4 in nearly every single way!
[/QUOTE] Dude you have no idea about what you are talking about,,,the Q6600 is better than the Penomx4 in nearly every single way! [/QUOTE] You miss read what he said, he said the phenoms do not hav same performance in comparison to clock (core), and + if the x4 9850 is as good as the q6600 wouldnt the x4 9950 be better than the q6600 ?
[QUOTE=''LikkleLee'']
[/QUOTE] Dude you have no idea about what you are talking about,,,the Q6600 is better than the Penomx4 in nearly every single way! [/QUOTE] You miss read what he said, he said the phenoms do not hav same performance in comparison to clock (core), and + if the x4 9850 is as good as the q6600 wouldnt the x4 9950 be better than the q6600 ? [/QUOTE] The Q6600 is cheaper, overclocks further and performs better if both are at same clock speeds!
Looking for new gaming PC.
My current PC isn't anything special at all. It can run games like the sims 2 and fable:tlc at med to high settings, but I can't run any games released in the past 2 years. My processor is an AMD 2600 (2.08 ghz) with an nvidia 6200, along with only 1 gig of ram. I'm looking for a really nice PC for a good price, which is nearly impossible to find at any store. I want to be able to run something like crysis at med to high settings, and still have enough room in the PC for future upgrades (such as more ram). Now, I all want this for about $1000, but I don't want to go building anything myself.If anyone knows of any good deals on good gaming PCs, please tell me. I don't know a whole lot about PC gaming, and I could be living in dream land thinking I could buy a PC for $1000 and run crysis on high settings. Yet maybe there are some good values out there, that I don't know about, thats why Im asking here. Any replies would be helpful. Looking for new gaming PC.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Infinity_9000_GS/since you dont wanna build it yourself. I got most of my pc from here. people say their a bad company.....but they probably never got a PC from them. I had no trouble with them at all.They built and sent my pc faster then they said they would. plus they upgraded my water cooling to the astek for freeLooking for new gaming PC.
check out this gateway available at best buy.... I have the previous gen with the 8800gt and it runs great..... btw that gateway shouuld smoke all games cept maybe crysishttp://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8891684%26type=product%26id=1214611180474
That cyber power site seems like it has a great deal of good values. I'll look at some and maybe decide to order one. I'm just somewhat neverous because it seems that a lot of the ones under 1,000 only have 2 gigs of ram, but I bet you can upgrade it. As for the gateway at bestbuy, that looks a good PC for the price, I may consider it.
do not buy cyberpowerpc, they have nonexistant customer support and low grade build quality
[QUOTE=''inyourface_12'']do not buy cyberpowerpc, they have nonexistant customer support and low grade build quality[/QUOTE] Yep I agree with this guy, there not really that great. They lure you in with low prices but you have to pay extra for brand named parts and there reselleratings/customer support is awful. Your defiently getting what you paid for.
[QUOTE=''inyourface_12'']do not buy cyberpowerpc, they have nonexistant customer support and low grade build quality[/QUOTE]Can you or anyone else suggest another site for good value gaming PCs?
i know its a gateway and all but these fx series desktops get good reviews and are great bang for the buck obviously it doesn have the best nvidia gpu (gtx 280) but for 1150 youll be able to max out everything cept crysis which will run silky smooth on highdef check out cyberpc too though you might be able to get an sli rig for around 1g
[QUOTE=''KingRoyW''] [QUOTE=''inyourface_12'']do not buy cyberpowerpc, they have nonexistant customer support and low grade build quality[/QUOTE]Can you or anyone else suggest another site for good value gaming PCs?[/QUOTE] Either build it yourself or get one from avadirect which has amazing customer support and a free 3 year warrenty which other companies charge hundreds extra for.
yeah avadirect are awesome i heard off mastershake right ;)
but mostly nothing defeat custom build
http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=10545%26ptitle=GAMING+PC,+Core+2+SLI+DDR3+Gaming+System
for that money in ncix.com cad money i coudl get Q9650 Incoming cpu : 2x 280GTX
Water-cooling. EVGA 790i ultra or Asus Striker 2 NSE
Same Amount of DDR3 Ram 1600mhz
it not what he getting just a shown that making is pc is the best deal usally
they doesn't charge for the 200$ warranty or + but it cost more then custom build
Would this http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=6885 with 8g of ram with an AMD Dual Core 6400+ (3.2ghz) run pretty well? All together its $1318, but I didn't add any new special power system or cooling device... should I be when I'm upgrading the memory and processor by so much?
Amd are Bad Ram are not imporant as Video card CPu sorry to tell you that
If i was you for that money id get a : E8600 : XFX 790i ultra or EVGa 790i ultra 2GB or 4GB memory 800mhz
or atlernative solution X48 Gigabyte E8600 : HD4870 powerusplpy 550wats+
Ram 2GB 800mhz. cpu cooler OCZ Vendetta II : cooling case : thermtalke MX+ or. antec 900 for more noise %26 Less space
500GB 80$ hard Drive Vista XP 64 Bits Premium if need a new OS and if it the case get 4GB Of ram for it
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wolfdale-shrinks-transistors,1773-5.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/07/08/is-more-memory-better/5
may Wisdom guide you my friend
[QUOTE=''KingRoyW''] Would this http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=6885with 8g of ram with an AMD Dual Core 6400+ (3.2ghz) run pretty well? All together its $1318, but I didn't add any new special power system or cooling device... should I be when I'm upgrading the memory and processor by so much? [/QUOTE] Try this one its cheaper http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=2541 I select crosair 450w for powersupply, 250GB harddrive, 4gigs of G.Skill ram,8800GT superclocked for video card ,x2 6000+ for processor, and the total price was $698 which doesn't include windows which you will probaly need EDIT- 8gigs of ram is way more than you need. 4gigs of ram is way more than enough and like I said, with operating system you have $200 left and you already can run crysis on high settings as long as you don't have a super high resolution
that may run crysis medium =) on 1280x1024
still tough according lot of benchmark amd is bottleneck compare to intel and it sad
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']that may run crysis medium =) on 1280x1024
still tough according lot of benchmark amd is bottleneck compare to intel and it sad
[/QUOTE] No not really...... A x2 6000+ is about as good as a 2.7-2.8ghz intel core 2 duo which is HARDLY a bottleneck. And no he's going to get WAY higher than medium. A 8800GT can get very high settings at 1024 x 768
well your wrong about cpu %
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-wolfdale_7.html#sect0
110 FPS since it 6000x2 vs : 159fps stock speed for e8500 curenclty priced at 210$US
Can be OC to 4.0ghz with after-market cooler to get +25FPS a total of 170-180fps vs 110fps
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283%26p=9
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']well your wrong about cpu %
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-wolfdale_7.html#sect0
[/QUOTE] Im talking about regular core 2 duo's, not wolfdale's. Also the CPU is more important on lower resolutions, thats why they picked a very low resolution. If he's playing at a decent resolution or above, the % increase is going to be low.
[QUOTE=''mastershake575''][QUOTE=''KingRoyW''] Would this http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=6885with 8g of ram with an AMD Dual Core 6400+ (3.2ghz) run pretty well? All together its $1318, but I didn't add any new special power system or cooling device... should I be when I'm upgrading the memory and processor by so much? [/QUOTE] Try this one its cheaper http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=2541 I select crosair 450w for powersupply, 250GB harddrive, 4gigs of G.Skill ram,8800GT superclocked for video card ,x2 6000+ for processor, and the total price was $698 which doesn't include windows which you will probaly need EDIT- 8gigs of ram is way more than you need. 4gigs of ram is way more than enough and like I said, with operating system you have $200 left and you already can run crysis on high settings as long as you don't have a super high resolution [/QUOTE]So this is what you currently own? Do you have to overclock the machine yourself, and if you do, will it be difficult for someone pretty new to customizing PCs? What you've shown me in the link seems like a great value. This can be upgraded later on for future games, right?
lower by a little still the dual core wolfdale from 100$ to 200$ kick ass ;) im so sorry for amd but they let me down.
they can't releash someting good before 2010 the new war nehalem vs amd i hope amd make a comeback honestly.
i alway loved amd in past but they let me down so i must resign and go straigh to intel in my new build simple as it
it the life. http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283%26p=9
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']well your wrong about cpu %
110 FPS since it 6000x2 vs : 159fps stock speed for e8500 curenclty priced at 210$US
Can be OC to 4.0ghz with after-market cooler to get +25FPS a total of 170-180fps vs 110fps [/QUOTE] Where talking about pre-builts not building. To get a E6600 2.4ghz processor on avadirect is about $250 more than a x2 6000+natural make up
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Infinity_9000_GS/since you dont wanna build it yourself. I got most of my pc from here. people say their a bad company.....but they probably never got a PC from them. I had no trouble with them at all.They built and sent my pc faster then they said they would. plus they upgraded my water cooling to the astek for freeLooking for new gaming PC.
check out this gateway available at best buy.... I have the previous gen with the 8800gt and it runs great..... btw that gateway shouuld smoke all games cept maybe crysishttp://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8891684%26type=product%26id=1214611180474
That cyber power site seems like it has a great deal of good values. I'll look at some and maybe decide to order one. I'm just somewhat neverous because it seems that a lot of the ones under 1,000 only have 2 gigs of ram, but I bet you can upgrade it. As for the gateway at bestbuy, that looks a good PC for the price, I may consider it.
do not buy cyberpowerpc, they have nonexistant customer support and low grade build quality
[QUOTE=''inyourface_12'']do not buy cyberpowerpc, they have nonexistant customer support and low grade build quality[/QUOTE] Yep I agree with this guy, there not really that great. They lure you in with low prices but you have to pay extra for brand named parts and there reselleratings/customer support is awful. Your defiently getting what you paid for.
[QUOTE=''inyourface_12'']do not buy cyberpowerpc, they have nonexistant customer support and low grade build quality[/QUOTE]Can you or anyone else suggest another site for good value gaming PCs?
i know its a gateway and all but these fx series desktops get good reviews and are great bang for the buck obviously it doesn have the best nvidia gpu (gtx 280) but for 1150 youll be able to max out everything cept crysis which will run silky smooth on highdef check out cyberpc too though you might be able to get an sli rig for around 1g
[QUOTE=''KingRoyW''] [QUOTE=''inyourface_12'']do not buy cyberpowerpc, they have nonexistant customer support and low grade build quality[/QUOTE]Can you or anyone else suggest another site for good value gaming PCs?[/QUOTE] Either build it yourself or get one from avadirect which has amazing customer support and a free 3 year warrenty which other companies charge hundreds extra for.
yeah avadirect are awesome i heard off mastershake right ;)
but mostly nothing defeat custom build
http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=10545%26ptitle=GAMING+PC,+Core+2+SLI+DDR3+Gaming+System
for that money in ncix.com cad money i coudl get Q9650 Incoming cpu : 2x 280GTX
Water-cooling. EVGA 790i ultra or Asus Striker 2 NSE
Same Amount of DDR3 Ram 1600mhz
it not what he getting just a shown that making is pc is the best deal usally
they doesn't charge for the 200$ warranty or + but it cost more then custom build
Would this http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=6885 with 8g of ram with an AMD Dual Core 6400+ (3.2ghz) run pretty well? All together its $1318, but I didn't add any new special power system or cooling device... should I be when I'm upgrading the memory and processor by so much?
Amd are Bad Ram are not imporant as Video card CPu sorry to tell you that
If i was you for that money id get a : E8600 : XFX 790i ultra or EVGa 790i ultra 2GB or 4GB memory 800mhz
or atlernative solution X48 Gigabyte E8600 : HD4870 powerusplpy 550wats+
Ram 2GB 800mhz. cpu cooler OCZ Vendetta II : cooling case : thermtalke MX+ or. antec 900 for more noise %26 Less space
500GB 80$ hard Drive Vista XP 64 Bits Premium if need a new OS and if it the case get 4GB Of ram for it
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wolfdale-shrinks-transistors,1773-5.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/07/08/is-more-memory-better/5
may Wisdom guide you my friend
[QUOTE=''KingRoyW''] Would this http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=6885with 8g of ram with an AMD Dual Core 6400+ (3.2ghz) run pretty well? All together its $1318, but I didn't add any new special power system or cooling device... should I be when I'm upgrading the memory and processor by so much? [/QUOTE] Try this one its cheaper http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=2541 I select crosair 450w for powersupply, 250GB harddrive, 4gigs of G.Skill ram,8800GT superclocked for video card ,x2 6000+ for processor, and the total price was $698 which doesn't include windows which you will probaly need EDIT- 8gigs of ram is way more than you need. 4gigs of ram is way more than enough and like I said, with operating system you have $200 left and you already can run crysis on high settings as long as you don't have a super high resolution
that may run crysis medium =) on 1280x1024
still tough according lot of benchmark amd is bottleneck compare to intel and it sad
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']that may run crysis medium =) on 1280x1024
still tough according lot of benchmark amd is bottleneck compare to intel and it sad
[/QUOTE] No not really...... A x2 6000+ is about as good as a 2.7-2.8ghz intel core 2 duo which is HARDLY a bottleneck. And no he's going to get WAY higher than medium. A 8800GT can get very high settings at 1024 x 768
well your wrong about cpu %
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-wolfdale_7.html#sect0
110 FPS since it 6000x2 vs : 159fps stock speed for e8500 curenclty priced at 210$US
Can be OC to 4.0ghz with after-market cooler to get +25FPS a total of 170-180fps vs 110fps
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283%26p=9
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']well your wrong about cpu %
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-wolfdale_7.html#sect0
[/QUOTE] Im talking about regular core 2 duo's, not wolfdale's. Also the CPU is more important on lower resolutions, thats why they picked a very low resolution. If he's playing at a decent resolution or above, the % increase is going to be low.
[QUOTE=''mastershake575''][QUOTE=''KingRoyW''] Would this http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=6885with 8g of ram with an AMD Dual Core 6400+ (3.2ghz) run pretty well? All together its $1318, but I didn't add any new special power system or cooling device... should I be when I'm upgrading the memory and processor by so much? [/QUOTE] Try this one its cheaper http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=2541 I select crosair 450w for powersupply, 250GB harddrive, 4gigs of G.Skill ram,8800GT superclocked for video card ,x2 6000+ for processor, and the total price was $698 which doesn't include windows which you will probaly need EDIT- 8gigs of ram is way more than you need. 4gigs of ram is way more than enough and like I said, with operating system you have $200 left and you already can run crysis on high settings as long as you don't have a super high resolution [/QUOTE]So this is what you currently own? Do you have to overclock the machine yourself, and if you do, will it be difficult for someone pretty new to customizing PCs? What you've shown me in the link seems like a great value. This can be upgraded later on for future games, right?
lower by a little still the dual core wolfdale from 100$ to 200$ kick ass ;) im so sorry for amd but they let me down.
they can't releash someting good before 2010 the new war nehalem vs amd i hope amd make a comeback honestly.
i alway loved amd in past but they let me down so i must resign and go straigh to intel in my new build simple as it
it the life. http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283%26p=9
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']well your wrong about cpu %
110 FPS since it 6000x2 vs : 159fps stock speed for e8500 curenclty priced at 210$US
Can be OC to 4.0ghz with after-market cooler to get +25FPS a total of 170-180fps vs 110fps [/QUOTE] Where talking about pre-builts not building. To get a E6600 2.4ghz processor on avadirect is about $250 more than a x2 6000+
building a custom pc...
accourding to my other topic (http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26509178) to play cs:s and other games on my pc. im going to need a new computer becuase mine is 6 years old and i might not have a video card slot in order to install a new one. so how would i come along do this?building a custom pc...
Well what's your budget?Here's a good budget build start:Intel Core 2 Duo E2200 or E7200PNY Optima 2GB RAM8800gt PCI-E Graphics Card (Choose 4750 or 4780 if you have the money)Gigabyte P43 MoboHope it helps! building a custom pc...
All depends on what you're willing to spend.(as said by crazy)
Or go with an X2 5000 black edition combo, since the mobo + cpu if you get a good combo will be dirt chearp.
Well what's your budget?Here's a good budget build start:Intel Core 2 Duo E2200 or E7200PNY Optima 2GB RAM8800gt PCI-E Graphics Card (Choose 4750 or 4780 if you have the money)Gigabyte P43 MoboHope it helps! building a custom pc...
All depends on what you're willing to spend.(as said by crazy)
Or go with an X2 5000 black edition combo, since the mobo + cpu if you get a good combo will be dirt chearp.
What is going on?
I have two temperature monitors. Speedfan and hmonitor. Hmonitor says that all my temps are good, but speedfan says that my core is running at 53c. My bios (which i trust the most) says that my temps are fine. Is it just a faulty temperature monitor? Any comments appreciated :D What is going on?
It could definitely be it. Maybe you should download some others and try them out too.What is going on?
will do :D
It could definitely be it. Maybe you should download some others and try them out too.What is going on?
will do :D
Trouble choosing a budget case: NZXT Alpha or Raidmax Ares?
Hey, lately I have been trouble trying to pick out a budget case. I'm wondering which one is better? For example, has better airflow, over all better quality? Here are the links: NZXT and RAIDMAX. They both has very similar reviews, and seem to be really good cases. But my question is, which one should I get? Im not really sure about the quality. Also, since Im on a budget, If I get the Raidmax I also can get an extra 2gb of RAM which would help greatly.EDIT: Also, and recomendations for 2gb of RAM that is overclockable? 1 Stick is preffered. Trouble choosing a budget case: NZXT Alpha or Raidmax Ares?
As for the case, if you're not a stickler for case quality, just go with the Raidmax.For good OCing 2gig ram, I'd say the G.Skill PC6400 2GBPQ.Trouble choosing a budget case: NZXT Alpha or Raidmax Ares?
[QUOTE=''Larrymon2000'']As for the case, if you're not a stickler for case quality, just go with the Raidmax.For good OCing 2gig ram, I'd say the G.Skill PC6400 2GBPQ.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the suggestion, I came across these 2 G. SKILL RAM.Is it this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231121or this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098
It's the first one, the second one is 2 sticks, so 2x1GB
[QUOTE=''Larrymon2000'']It's the first one, the second one is 2 sticks, so 2x1GB[/QUOTE]Great, thanks. One last question, I made a mistake by buying 1gb of ram before, and It didnt have a brand, so can I still try to Overclock the old ram and the new ram? or will it fry up?
As for the case, if you're not a stickler for case quality, just go with the Raidmax.For good OCing 2gig ram, I'd say the G.Skill PC6400 2GBPQ.Trouble choosing a budget case: NZXT Alpha or Raidmax Ares?
[QUOTE=''Larrymon2000'']As for the case, if you're not a stickler for case quality, just go with the Raidmax.For good OCing 2gig ram, I'd say the G.Skill PC6400 2GBPQ.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the suggestion, I came across these 2 G. SKILL RAM.Is it this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231121or this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098
It's the first one, the second one is 2 sticks, so 2x1GB
[QUOTE=''Larrymon2000'']It's the first one, the second one is 2 sticks, so 2x1GB[/QUOTE]Great, thanks. One last question, I made a mistake by buying 1gb of ram before, and It didnt have a brand, so can I still try to Overclock the old ram and the new ram? or will it fry up?
Frontlines Fuel Of War multiplayer demo
I have recently downloaded this demo of FFOW and its 100% completed problem is when i said open file it opened with the izarc archiver.. And i hate the izarc archiver! But thats not the problem. I cant open the game from the izarc archiver because it has multiple components of the game and when i click on setup.exe it says i cannot open and i tried all the other files and that didnt help either any advice would be greatFrontlines Fuel Of War multiplayer demo
Also what is a Athlon 64 processer driver?? Because with the installation wizard for this certain thin git says i need one and i have no idea what it is
Also what is a Athlon 64 processer driver?? Because with the installation wizard for this certain thin git says i need one and i have no idea what it is
windows xp 64 or vista
I'm looking for an upgrade to a 64bit operating system just not sure which one would be best purchase. windows xp 64 or vista
If it's 64-bit you're after, go for Vista.windows xp 64 or vista
I thought they stopped selling XP.
64bit Vista64bit XP had serious compatibility issues with too many things.
Vista all day baby!
[QUOTE=''TheFreeloader'']I thought they stopped selling XP.[/QUOTE] They did like June 15 or something.
If it's 64-bit you're after, go for Vista.windows xp 64 or vista
I thought they stopped selling XP.
64bit Vista64bit XP had serious compatibility issues with too many things.
Vista all day baby!
[QUOTE=''TheFreeloader'']I thought they stopped selling XP.[/QUOTE] They did like June 15 or something.
Is 4850 toxic worth 215$
It gets a slight overclock from 625 and 1986 to 675 and 2200, I am wondering if its worth the premium since it has a great zalman cooler on it, meaning more overclock headroom?Is 4850 toxic worth 215$
I don't really think so, you can overclock it yourself.. and it comes out much cheaper if you buy the regular version.Is 4850 toxic worth 215$
You can overclock it, but the standard fan is really not that great.
[QUOTE=''deniiiii21'']You can overclock it, but the standard fan is really not that great.[/QUOTE] Well its really up to you then.
I don't really think so, you can overclock it yourself.. and it comes out much cheaper if you buy the regular version.Is 4850 toxic worth 215$
You can overclock it, but the standard fan is really not that great.
[QUOTE=''deniiiii21'']You can overclock it, but the standard fan is really not that great.[/QUOTE] Well its really up to you then.
i would like to get a new graphics card
i would like to get a new graphics card but im confused about which one to get. i currently have an Intel 82845G graphics controller. and im on windows xpi would like to get a new graphics card
How much money do you plan on pitching in for a new graphics card? And which brand do you prefer?i would like to get a new graphics card
If you want to go to ATI, get the 4870 which is $300 and I've seen some as low as $250. If you don't want to spend that much go for the 4850. If you want to go nVidia, and don't want to spend much then get the 8800GT which is 110-130 dollars. Also, the 9800GTX is a great card as well.
what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful
[QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?
[QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?[/QUOTE]CPURamPower supplyand what you want your card to do. :]I have a feeling you have a PCI/AGP system...:?
[QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?[/QUOTE]CPURamPower supplyand what you want your card to do. :]I have a feeling you have a PCI/AGP system...:?[/QUOTE]where can i find that?
[QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?[/QUOTE]CPURamPower supplyand what you want your card to do. :]I have a feeling you have a PCI/AGP system...:?[/QUOTE]where can i find that?[/QUOTE] Cpu+ramGo to Start - right click on my computer - propertiesIt should say something like ''Intel Celeron 2.4512mb of RAM''Or''AMD Athlon 3200+1.50 GB of RAM''Power supplyOpen your case , look for a sticker on your power supply. and it should say v12+ and see what it says under it.it should look similar to this. ( http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/17-159-021-02.JPG )
hopefully you didnt buy this pc too long ago otherwise things like the cpu will bottleneck the gpu because it will be so slow
You can also go to start, run, and type in dxdiag.
click start button then on the run console type DXDIAG , you'll get the info on your pc
im gonna do that once i get back im about to go to a gow tourny
[QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?[/QUOTE]CPURamPower supplyand what you want your card to do. :]I have a feeling you have a PCI/AGP system...:?[/QUOTE]where can i find that?[/QUOTE] Cpu+ramGo to Start - right click on my computer - propertiesIt should say something like ''Intel Celeron 2.4512mb of RAM''Or''AMD Athlon 3200+1.50 GB of RAM''Power supplyOpen your case , look for a sticker on your power supply. and it should say v12+ and see what it says under it.it should look similar to this. ( http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/17-159-021-02.JPG )[/QUOTE] Intel Pentium 4 512mb of Ramcan i find power supply another way with out taking apart my computer?i would like my card to be able to play cs:source, the orange box, and combat arms
[QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?[/QUOTE]CPURamPower supplyand what you want your card to do. :]I have a feeling you have a PCI/AGP system...:?[/QUOTE]where can i find that?[/QUOTE] Cpu+ramGo to Start - right click on my computer - propertiesIt should say something like ''Intel Celeron 2.4512mb of RAM''Or''AMD Athlon 3200+1.50 GB of RAM''Power supplyOpen your case , look for a sticker on your power supply. and it should say v12+ and see what it says under it.it should look similar to this. ( http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/17-159-021-02.JPG )[/QUOTE] Intel Pentium 4 512mb of Ramcan i find power supply another way with out taking apart my computer?i would like my card to be able to play cs:source, the orange box, and combat arms[/QUOTE] The easiest way I find to get specs is to go to run and type dxdiag, it will tell you your GPU, your CPU and clock, your ram, pretty much everything we need except PSU.
[QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?[/QUOTE]CPURamPower supplyand what you want your card to do. :]I have a feeling you have a PCI/AGP system...:?[/QUOTE]where can i find that?[/QUOTE] Cpu+ramGo to Start - right click on my computer - propertiesIt should say something like ''Intel Celeron 2.4512mb of RAM''Or''AMD Athlon 3200+1.50 GB of RAM''Power supplyOpen your case , look for a sticker on your power supply. and it should say v12+ and see what it says under it.it should look similar to this. ( http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/17-159-021-02.JPG )[/QUOTE] Intel Pentium 4 512mb of Ramcan i find power supply another way with out taking apart my computer?i would like my card to be able to play cs:source, the orange box, and combat arms[/QUOTE] *sigh* How many GHZ on the Intel Pentium 4?Btw youll have to get a 1gb stick of ram, im GUESSING you have a AGP socket. But do what the other people said and type dxiag or whatever the command is.
this is sounding like your going to need a new pc my friend....how old is this pc
[QUOTE=''h575309'']this is sounding like your going to need a new pc my friend....how old is this pc[/QUOTE] i think its 4-6 years oldedit: its 6 years old and 2.53Ghz
[QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']this is sounding like your going to need a new pc my friend....how old is this pc[/QUOTE] i think its 4-6 years oldedit: its 6 years old and 2.53Ghz[/QUOTE]
Yeah... I think you should get an entirely new PC. But don't sweat it man, I'm getting a new PC too cuz I wanna play Diablo III. I'm saving up my money for an Alienware.
[QUOTE=''Digital_DJ_00''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']this is sounding like your going to need a new pc my friend....how old is this pc[/QUOTE] i think its 4-6 years oldedit: its 6 years old and 2.53Ghz[/QUOTE]
Yeah... I think you should get an entirely new PC. But don't sweat it man, I'm getting a new PC too cuz I wanna play Diablo III. I'm saving up my money for an Alienware.[/QUOTE] don't blow your money on alienware, build it yourself and you save half the price
[QUOTE=''imprezawrx500''][QUOTE=''Digital_DJ_00''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']this is sounding like your going to need a new pc my friend....how old is this pc[/QUOTE] i think its 4-6 years oldedit: its 6 years old and 2.53Ghz[/QUOTE]
Yeah... I think you should get an entirely new PC. But don't sweat it man, I'm getting a new PC too cuz I wanna play Diablo III. I'm saving up my money for an Alienware.[/QUOTE] don't blow your money on alienware, build it yourself and you save half the price [/QUOTE]Yup... custom build are far cheaper... if you need help to build your own PC, just post a topic about that here at PC Hardware Discussion... there are a lot of unbelievable people with unbelievable PC knowledge here at gamespot...
How much money do you plan on pitching in for a new graphics card? And which brand do you prefer?i would like to get a new graphics card
If you want to go to ATI, get the 4870 which is $300 and I've seen some as low as $250. If you don't want to spend that much go for the 4850. If you want to go nVidia, and don't want to spend much then get the 8800GT which is 110-130 dollars. Also, the 9800GTX is a great card as well.
what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful
[QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?
[QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?[/QUOTE]CPURamPower supplyand what you want your card to do. :]I have a feeling you have a PCI/AGP system...:?
[QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?[/QUOTE]CPURamPower supplyand what you want your card to do. :]I have a feeling you have a PCI/AGP system...:?[/QUOTE]where can i find that?
[QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?[/QUOTE]CPURamPower supplyand what you want your card to do. :]I have a feeling you have a PCI/AGP system...:?[/QUOTE]where can i find that?[/QUOTE] Cpu+ramGo to Start - right click on my computer - propertiesIt should say something like ''Intel Celeron 2.4512mb of RAM''Or''AMD Athlon 3200+1.50 GB of RAM''Power supplyOpen your case , look for a sticker on your power supply. and it should say v12+ and see what it says under it.it should look similar to this. ( http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/17-159-021-02.JPG )
hopefully you didnt buy this pc too long ago otherwise things like the cpu will bottleneck the gpu because it will be so slow
You can also go to start, run, and type in dxdiag.
click start button then on the run console type DXDIAG , you'll get the info on your pc
im gonna do that once i get back im about to go to a gow tourny
[QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?[/QUOTE]CPURamPower supplyand what you want your card to do. :]I have a feeling you have a PCI/AGP system...:?[/QUOTE]where can i find that?[/QUOTE] Cpu+ramGo to Start - right click on my computer - propertiesIt should say something like ''Intel Celeron 2.4512mb of RAM''Or''AMD Athlon 3200+1.50 GB of RAM''Power supplyOpen your case , look for a sticker on your power supply. and it should say v12+ and see what it says under it.it should look similar to this. ( http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/17-159-021-02.JPG )[/QUOTE] Intel Pentium 4 512mb of Ramcan i find power supply another way with out taking apart my computer?i would like my card to be able to play cs:source, the orange box, and combat arms
[QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?[/QUOTE]CPURamPower supplyand what you want your card to do. :]I have a feeling you have a PCI/AGP system...:?[/QUOTE]where can i find that?[/QUOTE] Cpu+ramGo to Start - right click on my computer - propertiesIt should say something like ''Intel Celeron 2.4512mb of RAM''Or''AMD Athlon 3200+1.50 GB of RAM''Power supplyOpen your case , look for a sticker on your power supply. and it should say v12+ and see what it says under it.it should look similar to this. ( http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/17-159-021-02.JPG )[/QUOTE] Intel Pentium 4 512mb of Ramcan i find power supply another way with out taking apart my computer?i would like my card to be able to play cs:source, the orange box, and combat arms[/QUOTE] The easiest way I find to get specs is to go to run and type dxdiag, it will tell you your GPU, your CPU and clock, your ram, pretty much everything we need except PSU.
[QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''][QUOTE=''Jamiemydearx3''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']what r the rest of the specs of your pc before we bottleneck you with something too powerful[/QUOTE] what specs do u need?[/QUOTE]CPURamPower supplyand what you want your card to do. :]I have a feeling you have a PCI/AGP system...:?[/QUOTE]where can i find that?[/QUOTE] Cpu+ramGo to Start - right click on my computer - propertiesIt should say something like ''Intel Celeron 2.4512mb of RAM''Or''AMD Athlon 3200+1.50 GB of RAM''Power supplyOpen your case , look for a sticker on your power supply. and it should say v12+ and see what it says under it.it should look similar to this. ( http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/17-159-021-02.JPG )[/QUOTE] Intel Pentium 4 512mb of Ramcan i find power supply another way with out taking apart my computer?i would like my card to be able to play cs:source, the orange box, and combat arms[/QUOTE] *sigh* How many GHZ on the Intel Pentium 4?Btw youll have to get a 1gb stick of ram, im GUESSING you have a AGP socket. But do what the other people said and type dxiag or whatever the command is.
this is sounding like your going to need a new pc my friend....how old is this pc
[QUOTE=''h575309'']this is sounding like your going to need a new pc my friend....how old is this pc[/QUOTE] i think its 4-6 years oldedit: its 6 years old and 2.53Ghz
[QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']this is sounding like your going to need a new pc my friend....how old is this pc[/QUOTE] i think its 4-6 years oldedit: its 6 years old and 2.53Ghz[/QUOTE]
Yeah... I think you should get an entirely new PC. But don't sweat it man, I'm getting a new PC too cuz I wanna play Diablo III. I'm saving up my money for an Alienware.
[QUOTE=''Digital_DJ_00''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']this is sounding like your going to need a new pc my friend....how old is this pc[/QUOTE] i think its 4-6 years oldedit: its 6 years old and 2.53Ghz[/QUOTE]
Yeah... I think you should get an entirely new PC. But don't sweat it man, I'm getting a new PC too cuz I wanna play Diablo III. I'm saving up my money for an Alienware.[/QUOTE] don't blow your money on alienware, build it yourself and you save half the price
[QUOTE=''imprezawrx500''][QUOTE=''Digital_DJ_00''][QUOTE=''Enraged_Bannana''] [QUOTE=''h575309'']this is sounding like your going to need a new pc my friend....how old is this pc[/QUOTE] i think its 4-6 years oldedit: its 6 years old and 2.53Ghz[/QUOTE]
Yeah... I think you should get an entirely new PC. But don't sweat it man, I'm getting a new PC too cuz I wanna play Diablo III. I'm saving up my money for an Alienware.[/QUOTE] don't blow your money on alienware, build it yourself and you save half the price [/QUOTE]Yup... custom build are far cheaper... if you need help to build your own PC, just post a topic about that here at PC Hardware Discussion... there are a lot of unbelievable people with unbelievable PC knowledge here at gamespot...
Can my PC run Far Cry 2
I don't want to bother anyone with this bad post, I know it isn't certan but in general terms can my PC run Far Cry 2 at the same level as a Xbox 360?This is to settle a dispute, I know it will run at the same level but it seems my word isn't enough. You have no idea how annoyed I am right know.Can my PC run Far Cry 2
No it wont run it at the same level as xbox 360.Can my PC run Far Cry 2
I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.
How about mines? will it be at 360 level?
[QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']How about mines? will it be at 360 level?
[/QUOTE]LOL ofcourse!
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.[/QUOTE]An AMD 4000+ cannot run crysis in medium paired with an 8800GTX so how can you huh?And I am not saying that your PC will not run far cry 2 at all cuz that is ofcourse BS but you dont run crysis in medium and neither is your PC as good as xbox 360 in gaming performance.
[QUOTE=''Spybot_9''] [QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.[/QUOTE]An AMD 4000+ cannot run crysis in medium paired with an 8800GTX so how can you huh?And I am not saying that your PC will not run far cry 2 at all cuz that is ofcourse BS but you dont run crysis in medium and neither is your PC as good as xbox 360 in gaming performance. [/QUOTE]Ok, look at my Crysis videos in my profile, medium. I run at 20FPS but whatever, it still lags little.
[QUOTE=''Spybot_9''][QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.[/QUOTE]An AMD 4000+ cannot run crysis in medium paired with an 8800GTX so how can you huh?And I am not saying that your PC will not run far cry 2 at all cuz that is ofcourse BS but you dont run crysis in medium and neither is your PC as good as xbox 360 in gaming performance. [/QUOTE]A 2600xt can of course run Crysis on medium, even high with some tweaks. Look at these videos:High SettingsMedium Settings
Ya that P4 is actually a bottleneck for the 2600XT.
Why don't you just build a new PC and put that dinosaur out to pasture. Money is easy to come by, and even easier to spend. If you don't make enough from your job try putting ads in craigslist as an escort.
[QUOTE=''Spybot_9'']Ya that P4 is actually a bottleneck for the 2600XT.[/QUOTE]Not realy, benchmarks show the 8600 geting 21FPS.
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer''][QUOTE=''Spybot_9''] [QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.[/QUOTE]An AMD 4000+ cannot run crysis in medium paired with an 8800GTX so how can you huh?And I am not saying that your PC will not run far cry 2 at all cuz that is ofcourse BS but you dont run crysis in medium and neither is your PC as good as xbox 360 in gaming performance. [/QUOTE]Ok, look at my Crysis videos in my profile, medium. I run at 20FPS but whatever, it still lags little.[/QUOTE]Must be awesome gaming experience playing it at 20fps e? And i stopped playing Crysis at Assault level cause i was getting 20fps... Crysis is such a fail in terms of optimization.
[QUOTE=''domke13''][QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer''][QUOTE=''Spybot_9''] [QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.[/QUOTE]An AMD 4000+ cannot run crysis in medium paired with an 8800GTX so how can you huh?And I am not saying that your PC will not run far cry 2 at all cuz that is ofcourse BS but you dont run crysis in medium and neither is your PC as good as xbox 360 in gaming performance. [/QUOTE]Ok, look at my Crysis videos in my profile, medium. I run at 20FPS but whatever, it still lags little.[/QUOTE]Must be awesome gaming experience playing it at 20fps e? And i stopped playing Crysis at Assault level cause i was getting 20fps... Crysis is such a fail in terms of optimization.[/QUOTE]And Far Cry 2 won't be.
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer''][QUOTE=''domke13''][QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer''][QUOTE=''Spybot_9''] [QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.[/QUOTE]An AMD 4000+ cannot run crysis in medium paired with an 8800GTX so how can you huh?And I am not saying that your PC will not run far cry 2 at all cuz that is ofcourse BS but you dont run crysis in medium and neither is your PC as good as xbox 360 in gaming performance. [/QUOTE]Ok, look at my Crysis videos in my profile, medium. I run at 20FPS but whatever, it still lags little.[/QUOTE]Must be awesome gaming experience playing it at 20fps e? And i stopped playing Crysis at Assault level cause i was getting 20fps... Crysis is such a fail in terms of optimization.[/QUOTE]And Far Cry 2 won't be.[/QUOTE] yes, at resolution 640x480
No it wont run it at the same level as xbox 360.Can my PC run Far Cry 2
I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.
How about mines? will it be at 360 level?
[QUOTE=''f-a-d-3'']How about mines? will it be at 360 level?
[/QUOTE]LOL ofcourse!
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.[/QUOTE]An AMD 4000+ cannot run crysis in medium paired with an 8800GTX so how can you huh?And I am not saying that your PC will not run far cry 2 at all cuz that is ofcourse BS but you dont run crysis in medium and neither is your PC as good as xbox 360 in gaming performance.
[QUOTE=''Spybot_9''] [QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.[/QUOTE]An AMD 4000+ cannot run crysis in medium paired with an 8800GTX so how can you huh?And I am not saying that your PC will not run far cry 2 at all cuz that is ofcourse BS but you dont run crysis in medium and neither is your PC as good as xbox 360 in gaming performance. [/QUOTE]Ok, look at my Crysis videos in my profile, medium. I run at 20FPS but whatever, it still lags little.
[QUOTE=''Spybot_9''][QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.[/QUOTE]An AMD 4000+ cannot run crysis in medium paired with an 8800GTX so how can you huh?And I am not saying that your PC will not run far cry 2 at all cuz that is ofcourse BS but you dont run crysis in medium and neither is your PC as good as xbox 360 in gaming performance. [/QUOTE]A 2600xt can of course run Crysis on medium, even high with some tweaks. Look at these videos:High SettingsMedium Settings
Ya that P4 is actually a bottleneck for the 2600XT.
Why don't you just build a new PC and put that dinosaur out to pasture. Money is easy to come by, and even easier to spend. If you don't make enough from your job try putting ads in craigslist as an escort.
[QUOTE=''Spybot_9'']Ya that P4 is actually a bottleneck for the 2600XT.[/QUOTE]Not realy, benchmarks show the 8600 geting 21FPS.
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer''][QUOTE=''Spybot_9''] [QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.[/QUOTE]An AMD 4000+ cannot run crysis in medium paired with an 8800GTX so how can you huh?And I am not saying that your PC will not run far cry 2 at all cuz that is ofcourse BS but you dont run crysis in medium and neither is your PC as good as xbox 360 in gaming performance. [/QUOTE]Ok, look at my Crysis videos in my profile, medium. I run at 20FPS but whatever, it still lags little.[/QUOTE]Must be awesome gaming experience playing it at 20fps e? And i stopped playing Crysis at Assault level cause i was getting 20fps... Crysis is such a fail in terms of optimization.
[QUOTE=''domke13''][QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer''][QUOTE=''Spybot_9''] [QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.[/QUOTE]An AMD 4000+ cannot run crysis in medium paired with an 8800GTX so how can you huh?And I am not saying that your PC will not run far cry 2 at all cuz that is ofcourse BS but you dont run crysis in medium and neither is your PC as good as xbox 360 in gaming performance. [/QUOTE]Ok, look at my Crysis videos in my profile, medium. I run at 20FPS but whatever, it still lags little.[/QUOTE]Must be awesome gaming experience playing it at 20fps e? And i stopped playing Crysis at Assault level cause i was getting 20fps... Crysis is such a fail in terms of optimization.[/QUOTE]And Far Cry 2 won't be.
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer''][QUOTE=''domke13''][QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer''][QUOTE=''Spybot_9''] [QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']I laugh at all the cretins who voted on not at all, I run Crysis on med so Far Cry 2 will be cake walk.[/QUOTE]An AMD 4000+ cannot run crysis in medium paired with an 8800GTX so how can you huh?And I am not saying that your PC will not run far cry 2 at all cuz that is ofcourse BS but you dont run crysis in medium and neither is your PC as good as xbox 360 in gaming performance. [/QUOTE]Ok, look at my Crysis videos in my profile, medium. I run at 20FPS but whatever, it still lags little.[/QUOTE]Must be awesome gaming experience playing it at 20fps e? And i stopped playing Crysis at Assault level cause i was getting 20fps... Crysis is such a fail in terms of optimization.[/QUOTE]And Far Cry 2 won't be.[/QUOTE] yes, at resolution 640x480
PC Trouble
Hey, when I start my family member's computer, it does not load the operating system, it says ''Error, can not find file windows\system\vgaoem.fon, and it won't start up or anything. Can anyone tell me what to do please?PC Trouble
Did you change anything in the registry or something?PC Trouble
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Did you change anything in the registry or something?PC Trouble
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From 2600XT to 3850 worth it?
Looking at benchs I seen a 20FPS difference on Crysis med.From 2600XT to 3850 worth it?
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']Looking at benchs I seen a 20FPS difference on Crysis med.[/QUOTE]Not gonna happen with your CPU.From 2600XT to 3850 worth it?
[QUOTE=''Spybot_9''][QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']Looking at benchs I seen a 20FPS difference on Crysis med.[/QUOTE]Not gonna happen with your CPU.[/QUOTE]Is it worth it then?
Save for new full upgrade.
If you have the money, get a E2200 along with the 3850. It would be a great upgrade, and your CPU would not be bottlenecking your Graphics Card anymore.
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer''][QUOTE=''Spybot_9''][QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']Looking at benchs I seen a 20FPS difference on Crysis med.[/QUOTE]Not gonna happen with your CPU.[/QUOTE]Is it worth it then?[/QUOTE]not really , better save up for new sistem
I think he's running AGP.
[QUOTE=''Spybot_9'']I think he's running AGP.[/QUOTE]and soket 478, I'm screwed for CPU.
Yeah And BTW your cpu is low like i said bosmer. you said you where happy with P4 But I shown to everone that P4 Is owned by Dual core Of intel
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283%26p=9
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wolfdale-shrinks-transistors,1773-5.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-wolfdale_7.html#sect0
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']Yeah And BTW your cpu is low like i said bosmer. you said you where happy with P4 But I shown to everone that P4 Is owned by Dual core Of intel[/QUOTE]I knew that...
maybe still if your AGP HD2600XT according ur cpu ur cpu is bottleneck for new video card the best solution is full upgrade but money doesn't grown on tree unless you find a way to make it happen LOL
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']Yeah And BTW your cpu is low like i said bosmer. you said you where happy with P4 But I shown to everone that P4 Is owned by Dual core Of intel[/QUOTE] went from P4 2.6 ghz to C2D 2.4Ghz ... man, preformance boost was freaking unbelievable. Even single core operations run tons faster on the C2D.So i want the same improvement for you with the new system not just a new overpriced AGP card that wont even help.
yeah if he can find around 500$ for so. Cpu : motherboard : then maybe video card :P
See the 'old build brought back' thread.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283%26p=9
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']Looking at benchs I seen a 20FPS difference on Crysis med.[/QUOTE]Not gonna happen with your CPU.From 2600XT to 3850 worth it?
[QUOTE=''Spybot_9''][QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']Looking at benchs I seen a 20FPS difference on Crysis med.[/QUOTE]Not gonna happen with your CPU.[/QUOTE]Is it worth it then?
Save for new full upgrade.
If you have the money, get a E2200 along with the 3850. It would be a great upgrade, and your CPU would not be bottlenecking your Graphics Card anymore.
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer''][QUOTE=''Spybot_9''][QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']Looking at benchs I seen a 20FPS difference on Crysis med.[/QUOTE]Not gonna happen with your CPU.[/QUOTE]Is it worth it then?[/QUOTE]not really , better save up for new sistem
I think he's running AGP.
[QUOTE=''Spybot_9'']I think he's running AGP.[/QUOTE]and soket 478, I'm screwed for CPU.
Yeah And BTW your cpu is low like i said bosmer. you said you where happy with P4 But I shown to everone that P4 Is owned by Dual core Of intel
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283%26p=9
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wolfdale-shrinks-transistors,1773-5.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-wolfdale_7.html#sect0
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']Yeah And BTW your cpu is low like i said bosmer. you said you where happy with P4 But I shown to everone that P4 Is owned by Dual core Of intel[/QUOTE]I knew that...
maybe still if your AGP HD2600XT according ur cpu ur cpu is bottleneck for new video card the best solution is full upgrade but money doesn't grown on tree unless you find a way to make it happen LOL
[QUOTE=''marcthpro'']Yeah And BTW your cpu is low like i said bosmer. you said you where happy with P4 But I shown to everone that P4 Is owned by Dual core Of intel[/QUOTE] went from P4 2.6 ghz to C2D 2.4Ghz ... man, preformance boost was freaking unbelievable. Even single core operations run tons faster on the C2D.So i want the same improvement for you with the new system not just a new overpriced AGP card that wont even help.
yeah if he can find around 500$ for so. Cpu : motherboard : then maybe video card :P
See the 'old build brought back' thread.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283%26p=9
Bluetooth
can you transfer documents between macs using bluetooth?Bluetooth
I think it is possible but slow.
I think it is possible but slow.
Which one is faster and give more performance , 1gb ddr2 or 512mb ddr3 GPU?
?????Which one is faster and give more performance , 1gb ddr2 or 512mb ddr3 GPU?
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Which one is faster and give more performance , 1gb ddr2 or 512mb ddr3 GPU?
[QUOTE=''Games_pro'']ofcourse 1gb ddr2[/QUOTE]I think he means Video Cards,RAM won't make a difference in GPUs look for series and benchmarks.
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer''][QUOTE=''Games_pro'']ofcourse 1gb ddr2[/QUOTE]I think he means Video Cards,RAM won't make a difference in GPUs look for series and benchmarks.[/QUOTE]he just added for ''gpu'' after I posted the reply,anyways ,do they still sell the Gddr2 cards?
The 4850 is better than the 3650. MUCH better.
I SERIOUSLY wish this was a joke thread.... the 4850 will destroy a 3650. Hands down. the VRAM has very LITTLE to do with the quality of the card.
Who posted and then deleted the GPUs?
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']Who posted and then deleted the GPUs?[/QUOTE]He/her was ashamed for the comic Q...;)Did the TC compare HD3650 ot HD4850?I have a Q also: Is a Mclaren F1 faster than a lawnmorer? :P
[QUOTE=''swehunt''][QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']Who posted and then deleted the GPUs?[/QUOTE]He/her was ashamed for the comic Q...;)Did the TC compare HD3650 ot HD4850?I have a Q also: Is a Mclaren F1 faster than a lawnmorer? :P[/QUOTE]I would normally say the Mclaren, although this lawn mower might give it a run for it's money :P
Hey guys... I think he asking something like this...Which one is better?8600gt DDR2 1024mb - http://www.gainward.com/product/product_detail.php?products_id=131or8600gt DDR3 512mb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130290My asnwer is 8600gt DDR3 512mb...
[QUOTE=''Aldouz'']Hey guys... I think he asking something like this...Which one is better?8600gt DDR2 1024mb - http://www.gainward.com/product/product_detail.php?products_id=131or8600gt DDR3 512mb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130290My asnwer is 8600gt DDR3 512mb...[/QUOTE]no, have a look at his other thread Which video card is the best between $100- $200?
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Which one is faster and give more performance , 1gb ddr2 or 512mb ddr3 GPU?
[QUOTE=''Games_pro'']ofcourse 1gb ddr2[/QUOTE]I think he means Video Cards,RAM won't make a difference in GPUs look for series and benchmarks.
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer''][QUOTE=''Games_pro'']ofcourse 1gb ddr2[/QUOTE]I think he means Video Cards,RAM won't make a difference in GPUs look for series and benchmarks.[/QUOTE]he just added for ''gpu'' after I posted the reply,anyways ,do they still sell the Gddr2 cards?
The 4850 is better than the 3650. MUCH better.
I SERIOUSLY wish this was a joke thread.... the 4850 will destroy a 3650. Hands down. the VRAM has very LITTLE to do with the quality of the card.
Who posted and then deleted the GPUs?
[QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']Who posted and then deleted the GPUs?[/QUOTE]He/her was ashamed for the comic Q...;)Did the TC compare HD3650 ot HD4850?I have a Q also: Is a Mclaren F1 faster than a lawnmorer? :P
[QUOTE=''swehunt''][QUOTE=''Angry_Bosmer'']Who posted and then deleted the GPUs?[/QUOTE]He/her was ashamed for the comic Q...;)Did the TC compare HD3650 ot HD4850?I have a Q also: Is a Mclaren F1 faster than a lawnmorer? :P[/QUOTE]I would normally say the Mclaren, although this lawn mower might give it a run for it's money :P
Hey guys... I think he asking something like this...Which one is better?8600gt DDR2 1024mb - http://www.gainward.com/product/product_detail.php?products_id=131or8600gt DDR3 512mb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130290My asnwer is 8600gt DDR3 512mb...
[QUOTE=''Aldouz'']Hey guys... I think he asking something like this...Which one is better?8600gt DDR2 1024mb - http://www.gainward.com/product/product_detail.php?products_id=131or8600gt DDR3 512mb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130290My asnwer is 8600gt DDR3 512mb...[/QUOTE]no, have a look at his other thread Which video card is the best between $100- $200?
Looking for a cooler for my Intel E2200
I want to try to overclock my E2200 when I get it, but I need a cooler for it. Any recomendations on a cooler that is reliable, and cheap?EDIT: I've been searching and there are different types out there for example 80mm or 90mm, which one is the one for me? If you need to know the motherboard that I have, just ask. Looking for a cooler for my Intel E2200
If you have a link or you can type your motherboard description, that would be great. I'd recommend Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, or Tuniq Tower. Noctua is great too.Looking for a cooler for my Intel E2200
Sure, here it is:Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775
[QUOTE=''Elann2008'']If you have a link or you can type your motherboard description, that would be great. I'd recommend Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, or Tuniq Tower. Noctua is great too.[/QUOTE]So, which of the ones you've mentioned will fit with my motherboard? Also, more suggestions are welcomed, any cheaper ones?
Like I said, I'd recommend Arctic Freezer 7 Pro and Tuniq Tower 120. I use a Tuniq Tower, and it's great. Coupled with Arctic Cooler 5, I was able to achieve a CPU temp of 32C, and it has only been 3 days since I've put this build together. A few more days and it should set in real nice.
[QUOTE=''crazy-player''][QUOTE=''Elann2008''] If you have a link or you can type your motherboard description, that would be great. I'd recommend Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, or Tuniq Tower. Noctua is great too.[/QUOTE]So, which of the ones you've mentioned will fit with my motherboard? Also, more suggestions are welcomed, any cheaper ones? [/QUOTE] If you're going to overclock, I would get anything less than those. Especially when you're overclocking on air, I would go with those, nothing less. That's my opinion.
If you have a link or you can type your motherboard description, that would be great. I'd recommend Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, or Tuniq Tower. Noctua is great too.Looking for a cooler for my Intel E2200
Sure, here it is:Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775
[QUOTE=''Elann2008'']If you have a link or you can type your motherboard description, that would be great. I'd recommend Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, or Tuniq Tower. Noctua is great too.[/QUOTE]So, which of the ones you've mentioned will fit with my motherboard? Also, more suggestions are welcomed, any cheaper ones?
Like I said, I'd recommend Arctic Freezer 7 Pro and Tuniq Tower 120. I use a Tuniq Tower, and it's great. Coupled with Arctic Cooler 5, I was able to achieve a CPU temp of 32C, and it has only been 3 days since I've put this build together. A few more days and it should set in real nice.
[QUOTE=''crazy-player''][QUOTE=''Elann2008''] If you have a link or you can type your motherboard description, that would be great. I'd recommend Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, or Tuniq Tower. Noctua is great too.[/QUOTE]So, which of the ones you've mentioned will fit with my motherboard? Also, more suggestions are welcomed, any cheaper ones? [/QUOTE] If you're going to overclock, I would get anything less than those. Especially when you're overclocking on air, I would go with those, nothing less. That's my opinion.
wow i'm confused
I just dont know what my actual cpu temperatures are b/c i get so many different temperature readings from different hardware temperature managing software. Heres what i'm getting:
PC wizard:
CPU temp: 35c
core 1: 45
core 2: 44 (why would it say CPU temp 35 but the cores are in the 40s?)
SpeedFan:
core 0: 29c
core 1: 31c
core: 53c (again, why would core be 53 if core 0 and 1 are around 30c?)
hmonitor:
cpu: 33c
core1:37
core0: 30
BIOS (my mobo BIOS):
cpu: 37c
So what do you guys think? Is PC wizard giving me incorrect temps?
All help is greatly appreciatedwow i'm confused
Use http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/ instead
PC wizard:
CPU temp: 35c
core 1: 45
core 2: 44 (why would it say CPU temp 35 but the cores are in the 40s?)
SpeedFan:
core 0: 29c
core 1: 31c
core: 53c (again, why would core be 53 if core 0 and 1 are around 30c?)
hmonitor:
cpu: 33c
core1:37
core0: 30
BIOS (my mobo BIOS):
cpu: 37c
So what do you guys think? Is PC wizard giving me incorrect temps?
All help is greatly appreciatedwow i'm confused
Use http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/ instead
Call of duty frame rate issues
Hello. I have Call of duty 4 on my pc, and am having frame rate issues. My pc is as follows: xfx geforce 8600 gt xxx 1680x1050 resolution- 60 htz refresh rate Dual core 64 bit prosseser 1024 mb DDR2 memory Windows XP I can not get a good frame rate no matter what I try, Is there anyone who has this problem, and what Nvidia control panel and in game options should I set? If you need more info to help me, please dont hesitate to ask. I have no life, so I will get back to you in a few hours. Thank you. Call of duty frame rate issues
I have a 7900GS and I have the same problem. I think that CoD is slightly incompatible with newer drivers....Call of duty frame rate issues
first you could do with another 1 GB of RAMSecond, a much better Graphics card such as the 8800GTThird, most likely your ok but what Processor are you running.
CoD was made in 2003. I'm pretty sure that graphics cards now should be able to run it without problems. Especially since my old Radeon x300 ran it well on medium/high....
[QUOTE=''ElectronFlux2'']CoD was made in 2003. I'm pretty sure that graphics cards now should be able to run it without problems. Especially since my old Radeon x300 ran it well on medium/high....[/QUOTE] He's talking about COD 4
[QUOTE=''ElectronFlux2'']CoD was made in 2003. I'm pretty sure that graphics cards now should be able to run it without problems. Especially since my old Radeon x300 ran it well on medium/high....[/QUOTE]yeah, CoD4 was made -03?TC:Chris_54 is rigth, the low end GPU could be the problem.And if so just go with lower resolution or less eye-candy.
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My rig in my sig gets 60+ FPS whit everything maxed with 4xAA I think you should get a new GPU.
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I am running an Intel Pentium D Prosessor 820. I currently have 1 GB of Ram, and Just ordered 2 more GB. Will this fix it?
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I have a 7900GS and I have the same problem. I think that CoD is slightly incompatible with newer drivers....Call of duty frame rate issues
first you could do with another 1 GB of RAMSecond, a much better Graphics card such as the 8800GTThird, most likely your ok but what Processor are you running.
CoD was made in 2003. I'm pretty sure that graphics cards now should be able to run it without problems. Especially since my old Radeon x300 ran it well on medium/high....
[QUOTE=''ElectronFlux2'']CoD was made in 2003. I'm pretty sure that graphics cards now should be able to run it without problems. Especially since my old Radeon x300 ran it well on medium/high....[/QUOTE] He's talking about COD 4
[QUOTE=''ElectronFlux2'']CoD was made in 2003. I'm pretty sure that graphics cards now should be able to run it without problems. Especially since my old Radeon x300 ran it well on medium/high....[/QUOTE]yeah, CoD4 was made -03?TC:Chris_54 is rigth, the low end GPU could be the problem.And if so just go with lower resolution or less eye-candy.
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My rig in my sig gets 60+ FPS whit everything maxed with 4xAA I think you should get a new GPU.
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I am running an Intel Pentium D Prosessor 820. I currently have 1 GB of Ram, and Just ordered 2 more GB. Will this fix it?
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e8500 ocing trouble.stops at 4.0
After resetting my bios to defaults yesterday i started re OC my cpu,after i got it to 4.0 however i turned off my comp and this morning i upped the voltage abit to keep up and tried to go past 4.0 but every time i get to the windows loading screen i get a blue screen,which leads me to assume that it's my OS and no my cpu,or am i wrong?e8500 ocing trouble.stops at 4.0
It could be anything. Your RAM might be overtaxed, your chipst might not be able to handle it, or the processor itself might not be up to par. It's definitely not your OS however. I get the feeling you're not a very experienced overclocker - I'd do a bit more reading before overclocking again.e8500 ocing trouble.stops at 4.0
It could be anything really. I would say its least likely to be the CPU and more likely to be ram or voltage related. Its hard to say without knowing what ram you have, what voltage and timings, divider you have them set on etc etc. The 8500 is fully capable of 4.0 even if you get one from a bad or low yield batch so i highly doubt its the cpu and not something else.
I wouldn't raise the voltage past Intel's max voltages.
[QUOTE=''hooded1man'']I wouldn't raise the voltage past Intel's max voltages.[/QUOTE]You can actually get 4.0 pretty commonly on the 8xxx series stuff with stock voltage and sometimes even below stock voltage. Unless you get a really bad batch pick you pretty much never have to increase the vcore until you start getting into high end water or phase change clocks.
[QUOTE=''Alter_Echo'']The 8500 is fully capable of 4.0 even if you get one from a bad or low yield batch so i highly doubt its the cpu and not something else. [/QUOTE] We're not even sure if an aftermarket cooler is being used. If one isn't being used, it could very easily be the CPU.
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''][QUOTE=''Alter_Echo'']The 8500 is fully capable of 4.0 even if you get one from a bad or low yield batch so i highly doubt its the cpu and not something else. [/QUOTE] We're not even sure if an aftermarket cooler is being used. If one isn't being used, it could very easily be the CPU.[/QUOTE]We know very little about the other components so its almost impossible to make an informed diagnoses. A blue screen is highly unlikely due to heat before it gets to the OS UNLESS its sitting there warming up in the bios for a long period of time.Unless you have it set to shutdown if it detects zero fan speed you can boot pretty much any of the C2D's without even having a HSF attached and get into the OS and even start a game/app w/e before it locks up. They just dont get warm that fast.
Ah well if it's more info that you require then i shall fulfill your desireI've got 2 gigs of ddr 3 dual channel ram @ 546 mhzMy fsb to ram ratio is 14:18 BUT i have them unlinked in my biosvoltage for ram is at the recommended 1.7
Also not the cooling,because it crashes right away while my temp is at a prettty pleasing to me atleast 50c.
[QUOTE=''headshot_reaper'']Also not the cooling,because it crashes right away while my temp is at a prettty pleasing to me atleast 50c.[/QUOTE]50c is pretty damn hot for a BIOS temperature reading.
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''][QUOTE=''headshot_reaper'']Also not the cooling,because it crashes right away while my temp is at a prettty pleasing to me atleast 50c.[/QUOTE]50c is pretty damn hot for a BIOS temperature reading.[/QUOTE]Assuming he seated the HSF correctly and didnt botch the TIM application he shouldnt see anything above 40c even with a high ambient temp and the stock cooler. Even if this isnt the cause of the problem you need to redo the seating.
I had the Heatsink and paste applied by a tech,and even then it's not rocket science,either way if i were to up my ram clock can i up my cpu? also the reading is off nvid monitor,
What are your specs?Ram, mobo, power supplu, video card, etc?Ram voltage at 1.7? Huh isnt that really low?
Or am I wrong? I thought normal was 1.9-2.1
14:18 ratio ? what the !%26@?!%26:P try using a 1:1 ratio, it's actually the best way to go when oc'ing, more stable. When overcloking, u need to OC your CPU, your RAM, your PCI-E port and NB+SB (voltage). You should be able to go over 4ghz even with like a 1.5 CPU voltage. I don't know if you mention it before, but you need good air or water cooling + thermal paste such as artic silver 5.My CPU: C2D E6420 2.13ghz @ 3.4ghzLook up for tutorials regarding your motherboard, there are good ones even on you tube sometimes.
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I was able to get to the Windows desktop at 4.52GHz - however it was not stable, and I did not wish to crank Vcore high enough to stabilize it. The Intel data sheet shows 1.46V to be the maximum safe Vcore for the E8500, so I did not want to exceed that by much. 1.468V was enough to get the system stable for all our benchmarks at 4.275GHz. In order to reach 4.275GHz, I had to do the following:
It could be anything. Your RAM might be overtaxed, your chipst might not be able to handle it, or the processor itself might not be up to par. It's definitely not your OS however. I get the feeling you're not a very experienced overclocker - I'd do a bit more reading before overclocking again.e8500 ocing trouble.stops at 4.0
It could be anything really. I would say its least likely to be the CPU and more likely to be ram or voltage related. Its hard to say without knowing what ram you have, what voltage and timings, divider you have them set on etc etc. The 8500 is fully capable of 4.0 even if you get one from a bad or low yield batch so i highly doubt its the cpu and not something else.
I wouldn't raise the voltage past Intel's max voltages.
[QUOTE=''hooded1man'']I wouldn't raise the voltage past Intel's max voltages.[/QUOTE]You can actually get 4.0 pretty commonly on the 8xxx series stuff with stock voltage and sometimes even below stock voltage. Unless you get a really bad batch pick you pretty much never have to increase the vcore until you start getting into high end water or phase change clocks.
[QUOTE=''Alter_Echo'']The 8500 is fully capable of 4.0 even if you get one from a bad or low yield batch so i highly doubt its the cpu and not something else. [/QUOTE] We're not even sure if an aftermarket cooler is being used. If one isn't being used, it could very easily be the CPU.
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''][QUOTE=''Alter_Echo'']The 8500 is fully capable of 4.0 even if you get one from a bad or low yield batch so i highly doubt its the cpu and not something else. [/QUOTE] We're not even sure if an aftermarket cooler is being used. If one isn't being used, it could very easily be the CPU.[/QUOTE]We know very little about the other components so its almost impossible to make an informed diagnoses. A blue screen is highly unlikely due to heat before it gets to the OS UNLESS its sitting there warming up in the bios for a long period of time.Unless you have it set to shutdown if it detects zero fan speed you can boot pretty much any of the C2D's without even having a HSF attached and get into the OS and even start a game/app w/e before it locks up. They just dont get warm that fast.
Ah well if it's more info that you require then i shall fulfill your desireI've got 2 gigs of ddr 3 dual channel ram @ 546 mhzMy fsb to ram ratio is 14:18 BUT i have them unlinked in my biosvoltage for ram is at the recommended 1.7
Also not the cooling,because it crashes right away while my temp is at a prettty pleasing to me atleast 50c.
[QUOTE=''headshot_reaper'']Also not the cooling,because it crashes right away while my temp is at a prettty pleasing to me atleast 50c.[/QUOTE]50c is pretty damn hot for a BIOS temperature reading.
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''][QUOTE=''headshot_reaper'']Also not the cooling,because it crashes right away while my temp is at a prettty pleasing to me atleast 50c.[/QUOTE]50c is pretty damn hot for a BIOS temperature reading.[/QUOTE]Assuming he seated the HSF correctly and didnt botch the TIM application he shouldnt see anything above 40c even with a high ambient temp and the stock cooler. Even if this isnt the cause of the problem you need to redo the seating.
I had the Heatsink and paste applied by a tech,and even then it's not rocket science,either way if i were to up my ram clock can i up my cpu? also the reading is off nvid monitor,
What are your specs?Ram, mobo, power supplu, video card, etc?Ram voltage at 1.7? Huh isnt that really low?
Or am I wrong? I thought normal was 1.9-2.1
14:18 ratio ? what the !%26@?!%26:P try using a 1:1 ratio, it's actually the best way to go when oc'ing, more stable. When overcloking, u need to OC your CPU, your RAM, your PCI-E port and NB+SB (voltage). You should be able to go over 4ghz even with like a 1.5 CPU voltage. I don't know if you mention it before, but you need good air or water cooling + thermal paste such as artic silver 5.My CPU: C2D E6420 2.13ghz @ 3.4ghzLook up for tutorials regarding your motherboard, there are good ones even on you tube sometimes.
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I was able to get to the Windows desktop at 4.52GHz - however it was not stable, and I did not wish to crank Vcore high enough to stabilize it. The Intel data sheet shows 1.46V to be the maximum safe Vcore for the E8500, so I did not want to exceed that by much. 1.468V was enough to get the system stable for all our benchmarks at 4.275GHz. In order to reach 4.275GHz, I had to do the following:
- used a Noctua NH-U 12 heatsink with two 12cm fans
- set Vcore to 1.468V
- set Vfsb to 1.45V
- set FSB to 450MHz
- set memory to 1800MHz
- set memory timing to 8-8-8--24, 2T
- set memory voltage to 1.9V (officially supported for these OCZ modules)''
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